A little exercise each day improves muscles more than one big weekly workout

Re:A little exercise each day improves muscles more than one... by chasd00 on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @09:51AM (#32482717)

when they said CICO is "just wrong" they should have said "just different for every person". My wife listens to a pretty entertaining podcast called Maintenance Phase and they did an episode on CICO where they basically call it BS because of all the other variables. I have a hard time dealing with CICO being wrong because I just don't see getting around the physics. In my mind, what's missed in CICO is the numbers and measurements are different for each person. A calorie limit for one person that results in weightloss may not work for someone else. It seems pretty obvious to me that calorie counting has to be done on an individual level and has to be done accurately ( a whole other problem ) but that seems to be missed on a lot of people.

EDIT: i wanted to mention something someone downthread hit on and that was also in the Maintenance Phase episode. Calorie burn is not constant and your body will adjust, so for you to effectively count calories and stay below some threshold you have to track what your body is burning as it adjusts which is probably very difficult.

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Re:A little exercise each day improves muscles more than one... by PuppyTailWags on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @12:02PM (#32484681)

I actually suspect CICO being wrong or right is actually bikeshedding technicality. The question is "Is CICO helpful to yell at a fat person?" and not in the technically if you can control every facet of a person's life they will lose weight under CICO, but whether or not a regular busy obese person potentially with health barriers, children, a full time job, and whatever other issues would find statistical use in it or is it just something that makes sense for thin people to yell about because its technically correct.

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Re:A little exercise each day improves muscles more than one... by Jensson on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @05:03PM (#32488890)

Lots of people just need to think in terms of CICO and no dumb diets to lose weight, they just eat less. Other people need to create arbitrary rules to eat less calories since they are addicted to some foods, so they need to cut out all the foods they are addicted to in order to reduce calories in. For example, people addicted to carbs do low carb diets to curb their calories in, people addicted to desserts do a no dessert diet and they will lose weight etc.

The only thin that makes this complicated at scale is that different people are addicted to different foods, so need to cut out different things to start losing weight. But CICO is the basis for all of those.

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Re:A little exercise each day improves muscles more than one... by hombre_fatal on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @11:53AM (#32484502)

The duo on that podcast asserts gems like: we don't actually know if being fat is bad for you. Worth a chuckle.

I can imagine the podcast took off because people are hungry (pun unintentional) for something that validates inaction on improving their bodies. That show treats any sort of ambition about one's body as an eating disorder or unrealistic goal.

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Re:A little exercise each day improves muscles more than one... by chasd00 on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @10:49AM (#32565712)

I know this is late but I was going back through my comments and found yours. Yeah , i have problems with the podcast on those terms too. I get their point that fat-shaming is harmful and I totally agree however, if someone is overweight then it's very much a good idea to try and reduce weight and not just consider it normal and healthy like the podcast sometimes implies. Granted, overweight people are a favorite prey for every charlatan out there and i feel like the podcast does an acceptable (but not perfect) job of calling them out.

oh and we (my wife and I) found the Maintenance Phase podcast by following Michael Hobbes from You're Wrong About which is another entertaining podcast. I don't always agree with his politics but if I ever met him i'd shake his hand, he does a really good job.

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