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Re:T-Mobile USA doesn't comply with its German parent compan... by Semaphor on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @06:57AM (#32481289)
Is there at some point a link to the claim that DT policies apply to their subsidiaries? I wouldn’t assume they do, but at least I’d like to read about that.

edit: Found it way down the page: https://www.telekom.com/resource/blob/323318/ce2bab699cb8cb2...

edit2: Fascinating, the term "independent stock corporation" seems to be exclusively used by German-speaking companies: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22independent+stock+corporation%2...

Re:T-Mobile USA doesn't comply with its German parent compan... by lozenge on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @07:12AM (#32481380)
It doesn't support his case.

"Data collected in Europe shall be processed generally in accordance with the legal provisions of the country in which the data was collected, regardless of where the data is processed, but at the very least in accordance with the requirements of these Binding Corporate Rules Privacy."

His data wasn't collected in Europe.

" For Deutsche Telekom AG from July 01, 2014 in accordance with approval by the Board of Management on June 10, 2014. In the domestic Group companies, as per board approval or decision of the responsible board member."

Where's the board approval of the US board?

How about the GDPR?

" The whole point of the GDPR is to protect data belonging to EU citizens and residents. The law, therefore, applies to organizations that handle such data whether they are EU-based organizations or not, known as “extra-territorial effect.”" (gdpr.eu)

Is he an EU citizen?

Re:T-Mobile USA doesn't comply with its German parent compan... by jeroenhd on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @09:00AM (#32482189)
> Is he an EU citizen?

Based on his biography (hasbrouck.org/bio/whoami.html) I believe he is an American citizen. I see records about him being born in the USA and nothing about any moves to a European country (other than his world travels for activism and other short-term purposes). If he were a European citizen, I'd expect his complaints to be directed at his local DPA rather than at DT/T-Mobile directly.

I'm no lawyer so I'm not sure how legally binding his communication with T-Mobile/DT about the exact use of his data really is.

Re:T-Mobile USA doesn't comply with its German parent compan... by ehasbrouck on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @12:48PM (#32485413)
I'm a citizen and resident of the USA. But I have travelled often in Germany, roaming on Deutshce Telekom cell towers using a cellphone with a T-Mobile USA SIM and a US phone number. DT has collected data about my roaming in Germany, and has transferred that data to T-Mobile USA for billing and other purposes. So some of the data about me held by T-Mobile USA, which T-Mobile USA has refused to allow me to see, was collected in Germany by Deutsche Telekom.
Re:T-Mobile USA doesn't comply with its German parent compan... by cj on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @02:54PM (#32487138)
(I could be wrong but) GDPR does not grant rights to American tourists visiting Europe unless they are residing there (e.g. established residency, not just traveling through)
Re:T-Mobile USA doesn't comply with its German parent compan... by joecool1029 on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @06:33PM (#32489863)
Probably also a distinction to make but T-Mobile USA's international roaming isn't meant for long-term usage and they'll terminate the account if more than half a year or so is outside the US.

I always thought of the cost implication for T-Mobile before this thread, not that they are probably more concerned with legal exposure of people changing residency and trying to remain as customers.