Re:Android 13
by invokestatic on Monday August 15, 2022 @03:40PM
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Your ticket comes across as very confrontational. This puts the developer(s) into a position where they feel the need to defend themselves instead of acting collaboratively with the user to solve their problem.
Re:Android 13
by MishaalRahman on Monday August 15, 2022 @04:34PM
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Agreed, it's not very constructive feedback. Google does respond to feedback on the Issue Tracker, but I've found posts that sound like rants tend to get ignored (unless there's some critical issue at play).
Re:Android 13
by hammyhavoc on Monday August 15, 2022 @06:12PM
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It's also not a very constructive UI change, and the Pixel 6 doesn't allow rolling back to Android 12, so if you do update, your premium-priced phone suffers a UI downgrade. I don't think anger is unreasonable when all is said and done, it's a phone. It doesn't need constant screwing around with the UI, just make it secure, reliable, and optimize it.
It doesn’t matter if anger is at play. At the end of the day, if you want something changed, you should act in the best way to get it
Re:Android 13
by hammyhavoc on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @01:44AM
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The best way in 2022, sadly, if you have little clout, is to create a public outcry and potential PR disaster. See it every day on Twitter.
Yes, I'm explicitly asking them to undo their work because it was actively destructive for everyone's user experience.
Re:Android 13
by andrewaylett on Monday August 15, 2022 @05:33PM
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Consider, maybe, the psycology of the interaction. You may well be used to direct feedback, but when driving change in another organisation -- especiallly one where it's really cheap for them to simply ignore you -- it can help to consider how people will react and make it as easy as possible for them to take the action you want them to.
We can assume that they made these changes deliberately. Therefore it's going to take a lot of conviincing to get them to undo the changes.
For what it's worth, too, I disagree with you: I'm quite happy with the asethetic they've built. Although, in case it's not clear to you, no-one outside of Google can see the screenshots you supplied. So I've not seen the specific notifications you're complaining about.
Re:Android 13
by kingofpandora on Monday August 15, 2022 @05:21PM
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How not what is the problem.
Imagine you bought a house you like. A year later a team of exterior painters knocks on your door and tells you they are going to repaint your house to keep it up to date with thr latest trends. With some effort you manage to kick them out. This situation repeats a few times until a few months later they show up at night and paint your house without your permission, partially painting over some of the windows and even your car. They also replace your dog with a cat. They do it because they are full time painters employed by the city council and they cant just sit and do nothing.
Your comment reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvQcabZ1zrk
I don't know why Google has declare a "War on Contrast", but since Android 7 it's only become uglier with each release. It's certainly hell for writing durable tutorials, what with each release shuffling the settings and icons randomly.
I wonder if it sell more phones, convincing people to upgrade to get the new Android experience?
Re:Android 13
by hammyhavoc on Monday August 15, 2022 @06:13PM
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People like to have the new shiny that they see around them.
Can't they, like, add new APIs, but not touch the damn UI without a clearly defined rationale? By "clearly defined" I mean substantiated by something besides calls to emotions.
And I'm getting tired of every OS needing a major update every year because reasons. Software products need to have a finished state like every other engineering project does.