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Re:We are entering a new world of collective action by throw__away7391 on Sunday August 14, 2022 @01:45PM (#32461261)
"The Establishment" is obviously not what I'm referring to, and doesn't really exist as such.

The supposed examples of grassroots level action are being organized/directed and inspired by people already in positions of influence in traditional establishments. That's not too surprising I suppose.

There's an unspoken implication here that'd I'll make explicit: the supposed goals of these movements are not the true motivations of the people most responsible for driving them. They serve the hidden interests of the groups pushing them first and foremost.

Re:We are entering a new world of collective action by smt88 on Sunday August 14, 2022 @02:50PM (#32461801)
Again, that's all too vague. It's impossible to debate whether it's true or not. Please give specific examples.