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Re:The layoffs at Klarna by lumost on Sunday August 14, 2022 @01:29PM (#32461104)
For transaction processing, wouldn't a 1-3% margin be about the maximum achievable? That would translate to about 15 million dollars in potential profit against a 730 million loss.
Re:The layoffs at Klarna by treis on Sunday August 14, 2022 @01:44PM (#32461250)
1-3% of the transaction volume. That percentage is the 1.4 billion Klarna takes as revenue. The margins of that can be very high.
Re:The layoffs at Klarna by yobbo on Sunday August 14, 2022 @03:22PM (#32462104)
> That percentage is the 1.4 billion Klarna takes as revenue.

Implying that transaction volume is on the order of $200 billion? No.

For perspective, Amazon's 2018 revenue is $230 billion.

Re:The layoffs at Klarna by lumost on Sunday August 14, 2022 @03:01PM (#32461909)
Are we sure that that's true? As a private company klarna can choose any metric they so desire as revenue...
Re:The layoffs at Klarna by christophilus on Sunday August 14, 2022 @03:51PM (#32462332)
What? Isn’t revenue kind of … revenue? What else can it be?
Re:The layoffs at Klarna by lumost on Sunday August 14, 2022 @04:56PM (#32462865)
To my knowledge, there isn't any reason klarna can't describe their transaction volume as revenue. Then declare their margin 3%.

As a private tech company I would assume that they are using the broadest possible definition of revenue.

Re:The layoffs at Klarna by Montaque on Monday August 15, 2022 @12:54AM (#32466034)
No. GAAP and IFRS have very strict definitions of Revenue. Transaction volume falls under the agency principle. Its not the Co's revenue.
Re:The layoffs at Klarna by yobbo on Monday August 15, 2022 @02:55AM (#32466629)
That's not what a klarna transaction is.

Klarna pays the vendor immediately (with its credit line), and the user enters into a sort of debt contract with klarna.

Klarna's revenue is what it receives from the user.

It's a great business model when the interest rate is 0%.

Re:The layoffs at Klarna by peyton on Sunday August 14, 2022 @07:56PM (#32464332)
Dunno about Sweden but lots of compensation stuff triggers financial reporting requirements for obvious reasons.
Re:The layoffs at Klarna by naturalauction on Sunday August 14, 2022 @01:48PM (#32461280)
I think Klarna can charge slightly higher fees to merchants (it looks like they charge up to 6%) as sales increase with buy now pay later. Also they probably think they can make money off of servicing the debt (late fees, interest on balances).
Re:The layoffs at Klarna by dilyevsky on Sunday August 14, 2022 @05:35PM (#32463166)
Per https://www.klarna.com/international/regulatory-news/klarna-... their volume was $80B last year, 1.4B was their cut (1-3%) aka revenue, and the profit would depend on bunch of things such as their marketing/sales spend, wages, debt servicing, etc and most likely has been negative.

Edit: not "most likely" - apparently they lost to the tune of $700M

Re:The layoffs at Klarna by yobbo on Monday August 15, 2022 @03:18AM (#32466769)
$80B is a number much higher than I thought, but Klarna correctly calls their $1.4B net operating income.
Re:The layoffs at Klarna by peyton on Sunday August 14, 2022 @02:01PM (#32461393)
Visa’s margins are like 50–60%.