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Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by jgeada on Thursday August 11, 2022 @10:36AM (#32426345)
I've heard this excuse, that tax situation is too complicated, and never understood it. The store knows to charge me the correct value, including all appropriate taxes, when I come to pay. So the data clearly is there, and therefore choosing not to show it to me up front is indeed bait-and-switch. They're telling me a price that is not going to be what they'll actually charge me.
Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by jpeizer on Thursday August 11, 2022 @10:54AM (#32426666)
It’s also a logistics thing. Since we also shop online. Store want online prices to match what’s seen in store and making the two match would be a nightmare and not reasonably viable.

On the other hand thing like cars really should have an all inclusive price sticker. They already have an itemized price sticker on the car so there is really nothing stoping these sellers from putting the remaining fees and taxes on there two as that should be consistent with the same dealer location and with such low inventory.

Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by setr on Thursday August 11, 2022 @11:59PM (#32434578)
Given that most stores weren’t printing final price pre-internet, I highly doubt this is the reason. Though I do recall some really small convenience stores not getting the memo, but amongst them it isn’t/wasnt common
Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by jsmith45 on Friday August 12, 2022 @11:00AM (#32439632)
If displaying post tax prices is not required by law, then it is usually a competitive disadvantage.

People will see the post tax price, compare it in their head with the pre-tax price they saw at some other store, and feel like the post tax prices store is more expensive even if this store’s final price is actually slightly lower than the other store’s price.

Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by leesalminen on Thursday August 11, 2022 @10:42AM (#32426450)
Are you advocating requiring user registration with an address and login just to view products on an e-commerce site? I would dislike that far more than just knowing my sales tax rate is X% and to factor that in my head. I’d probably do significantly less online shopping if I had to register to see products.
Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by wizofaus on Thursday August 11, 2022 @02:44PM (#32430035)
Lots of possible solutions to that though, for unregistered users you could have an option to select sales tax % that would default based on location if you let the site access it. How many different sales tax rates actually exist in the US and how often do they change?
Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by vel0city on Friday August 12, 2022 @12:08AM (#32434616)
> How many different sales tax rates actually exist in the US and how often do they change?

Thousands. Every municipality in my area can have their own sales tax and can change them whenever they want. For Texas alone that's ~1,220 potentially different sales taxes which can change at any time. Its not an impossible to keep track of thing though, plenty of organizations do it and most payment processors will essentially handle it for you. But its not exactly easy, aggregating all that and getting it all right in the first place is a good bit of work.

Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by wizofaus on Friday August 12, 2022 @04:44AM (#32435972)
Sounds crazy but ok!
Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by leesalminen on Thursday August 11, 2022 @10:07PM (#32434040)
Sure, I agree there are probably some half-useful middle ground solutions.

There are thousands of different sales tax rates in the US that change multiple times per year.

Each city, county, state and other things like metro transit districts, water districts and school districts can all contribute to the sales tax rate paid by an individual at the point of sale.

Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by yibg on Thursday August 11, 2022 @11:06PM (#32434340)
The answer to both is a lot. It’s not just state level but also county, municipal etc levels. Every month there are dozens and dozens of tax rate changes.
Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by Spooky23 on Thursday August 11, 2022 @11:40PM (#32434487)
Everyone seems to manage with that just fine. There are literally hundreds of entities providing that service to merchants.
Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by yibg on Friday August 12, 2022 @02:30PM (#32442265)
That’s not the topic of discussion though. They currently manage it fine because it’s done at point of sale. How would that work if you have to advertise the price including the sales tax?
Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by bbarnett on Thursday August 11, 2022 @10:42AM (#32426442)
They aren't charging you sales tax. The governement is, and they force the store into being their tax collector too.

It is a very important distinction.

Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by s3p on Thursday August 11, 2022 @11:55PM (#32434565)
Maybe. But have you ever considered stores that offer pick up vs. dine in options? In Ohio for instance, pick up orders of food of any kind aren't taxed, but dine-in is. So if you're at a fast food restaurant they can't magically change the prices on the menu to include tax just because they now know you're dining in.