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Re:How (and Why) Neil Gaiman Finally Adapted ‘The Sandman’ f... by tptacek on Sunday August 07, 2022 @04:41PM (#32379684)
The issue with this season is that while the comics are beloved, the first book is quite weak; Gaiman was still finding his voice, still experimenting with what the books were going to be, and constrained by editorial requirements from DC. The first several issues are full of cringey tie-ins to other DC IP, and the horror elements are forced (The Sandman is not a horror comic series).

If you're not a Sandman stan, my advice is to watch episode 1, and then episode 5, skipping 2-4. The first actually-good episode is 6; the Hob Gadling stuff is sort of emblematic of the the comic grows into, so if you like it, you'll like the rest of it.

If you are a Sandman stan, something to note is that they seem to have deliberately severed it from the DC Universe. I'm surprised at how many elements of the first and second book turn out to be been DC tie-ins; for instance, Hector and Lyta Hall in Dolls House were I guess defined by other DC comics? Anyways, they've gone out of their way to cut all that stuff out the series.

I think most of the changes are for the better.

I think the series is fine.

I was way, way into Sandman when I was younger.

This show isn't in my Top N list. I'm curious to see if it gets renewed.

By comparison, the HBO Watchmen series is not only one of the best comic book adaptations of all time, but also one of my favorite TV series of the last 10 years.

Re:How (and Why) Neil Gaiman Finally Adapted ‘The Sandman’ f... by gpoinlt on Sunday August 07, 2022 @05:44PM (#32380212)
I remember having the same impression 20 years ago. My housemate had the whole series of books, and would rave about how brilliant they are.

After reading the first book, it was such a "meh" experience I didn't bother reading any others. Some occult guy traps the dream guy in a glass pot, dream guy escapes and wanders around getting his stuff back, also, his sister is a hot goth chick who happens to be the grim reaper. Later I understood it was peppered with references to other cartoon books, but that eluded me at the time.

Not sure what I'm missing but I just don't get the appeal.

Re:How (and Why) Neil Gaiman Finally Adapted ‘The Sandman’ f... by bsaul on Monday August 08, 2022 @09:50AM (#32385357)
i always keep telling my friends that you need to read the book at least three times to really "get it".

I had the first book at home borrowed from a friend, read it once and thought "hm..". Then reread just like that and thought "hey, this is actually good". Then a third time and thought this was actually genius. Then decided to buy the whole serie.

It took me that long to understand the depth of the text, all the references ( either grabbed from other stories, or from real history), and sometimes realizing all the bits of the story.

And the best part to me: this is exactly reflecting the structure of a dream. It's all a bit weird and blurry, then its deep meaning only appears after careful examination.

Re:How (and Why) Neil Gaiman Finally Adapted ‘The Sandman’ f... by disgruntledphd2 on Monday August 08, 2022 @08:41AM (#32384749)
Yeah, I actually read the fourth (Season of Mists) first, and that hooked me. Dunno what would have happened if I'd actually read them in order.
Re:How (and Why) Neil Gaiman Finally Adapted ‘The Sandman’ f... by falcolas on Sunday August 07, 2022 @04:52PM (#32379775)
The link hasn’t totally been severed. Constantine is still present.

My only two gripes are a bad 2.0 sound mix - too much dynamic range, even with compression turned on - and Lucifer was lackluster. Too much “corporate CEO” and not enough fallen angel. Should have pulled in the TV show actor.

But Death, Desire, Matthew, Lucien, even Morpheus himself all rock.

Re:How (and Why) Neil Gaiman Finally Adapted ‘The Sandman’ f... by tptacek on Sunday August 07, 2022 @05:04PM (#32379875)
The Constantine of the series isn't the Constantine of the book; the Constantine of the book is the protagonist of Hellblazer, and he isn't hundreds of years old. The Constantine of the series has a thru-line going back to Hob Gadling; she's entirely contained in the Sandman story.
Re:How (and Why) Neil Gaiman Finally Adapted ‘The Sandman’ f... by falcolas on Sunday August 07, 2022 @06:14PM (#32380449)
The two Constantines are two different people, even though they’re played by the same actress. Morpheus explicitly calls out working with her ancestor, who is the one we saw in Hobbs story.

More importantly she doesn’t recognize Morpheus despite working with him.

Re:How (and Why) Neil Gaiman Finally Adapted ‘The Sandman’ f... by PeterWhittaker on Sunday August 07, 2022 @06:56PM (#32380746)
I’ve not read the comics (in fact, despite loving his books, I was wholly unaware he wrote comics until recently).

We watched 1-5 last night and will likely watch 6-10 tonight.

5 was AMAZING. What tension, what dread. All of them are shot brilliantly, with fantastic acting and excellent dialogue.