Intel expands Oregon Fab building; 18A Node now 2024

Re:Intel expands Oregon Fab building; 18A Node now 2024 by andy_ppp on Sunday August 07, 2022 @05:08AM (#32375050)

Does anyone know when Intel plans to be competitive with TSMC and how the nodes 18A and N3, and possibly N3E compare?

EDIT: okay so if Intel get 18A done in 2024 that is equivalent to N2 which has recently slipped to 2025/2026.

I say equivalent but as we all know the real feature density is what matters and I’d love if someone had some expected comparisons on this.

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Re:Intel expands Oregon Fab building; 18A Node now 2024 by thunderbird120 on Sunday August 07, 2022 @06:15AM (#32375306)

At least in theory both 20A and 18A are significantly superior to what TSMC has planned for its initial N2 node. Backside power delivery is the largest single factor but Intel will also likely have a density advantage on top of that. TSMC's N2 is a very conservative node.

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Re:Intel expands Oregon Fab building; 18A Node now 2024 by senttoschool on Sunday August 07, 2022 @07:54AM (#32375779)

I don't think so.

Intel's roadmap is Intel 4 (TSMC N5P) --> 20A (TSMC N3) --> 18A (TSMC N3E)

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Re:Intel expands Oregon Fab building; 18A Node now 2024 by andy_ppp on Sunday August 07, 2022 @05:25PM (#32380072)

Um, can we just talk about feature density… as I understand it backside power is a huge breakthrough and Intel will probably be a year before TSMC get to similar feature size with technology that is much more uncertain.

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