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Re:What ever happened to the transhumanists? by yarg on Saturday August 06, 2022 @02:07AM (#32365372)
Where did I say that they were mentally ill?

(Misremembering other people's arguments is a poor strategy in a technical forum.)

And regardless of what transhumanism as a whole is about, it will always be about continuation of sapience and its evolution through time.

Biological or otherwise.

Re:What ever happened to the transhumanists? by LesZedCB on Saturday August 06, 2022 @02:14AM (#32365418)
> The transgender community needs to stop pushing the notion that it's healthy and desirable; it's not - it's a devastating hormonal/fertility disorder.

what exactly is your word for unhealthy and undesirable? you are clearly referring to dysphoria. i don't know if you realized, but the DSM has changed in recent years.

Re:What ever happened to the transhumanists? by yarg on Saturday August 06, 2022 @02:29AM (#32365494)
No mention of mental illness there, but you already knew that.
Re:What ever happened to the transhumanists? by LesZedCB on Saturday August 06, 2022 @02:36AM (#32365524)
sorry, you just disagree with them being happy even if it makes them infertile.

classic intellectually dishonest HN concern troll

Re:What ever happened to the transhumanists? by the_omegist on Saturday August 06, 2022 @03:12AM (#32365743)
The classical consumerist hedonist mentality : if they are happy then who can say anything about that ?

Well it seems you're the one trolling here.

If you deny the right to people to have opinions and judgments based on their beliefs about anything they wish, you're doing worse than you complain about.

Re:What ever happened to the transhumanists? by yarg on Saturday August 06, 2022 @06:31PM (#32372205)
He's actually putting words in my mouth again; I really have no problem with people having a sex change.

Acceptance was a vital social step, but promotion crosses a line for me - and there are severe deleterious consequences are ignored and dismissed by the community.

I think in general the answer is to let kids be themselves and not to judge them for it; give them a say in their clothes and toys - and do not punish them for their selection.

Re:What ever happened to the transhumanists? by LesZedCB on Saturday August 06, 2022 @03:36AM (#32365876)
i am not denying any right, i have neither authority nor power. we all have equal right to comment and disagree.

though you are right, i am kinda a hedonist. do you mourn for me, or lament the condition I would bring upon civilization, right before chicxulub blows us up? haha.

don't worry, i have no power offline either.

Re:What ever happened to the transhumanists? by stale2002 on Saturday August 06, 2022 @02:37AM (#32365536)
If you stopped acting in bad faith, looking for some gotcha, for one single second, you'd realize that by "unhealthly" they were referring to the effects of hormone treatments, which clearly have significant effects and side effects on the physical body.
Re:What ever happened to the transhumanists? by fzeroracer on Saturday August 06, 2022 @03:21AM (#32365793)
People literally do hormone treatments to solve things like pattern baldness. If you're concerned about unhealthy hormone treatments you should probably start with the stuff that's far more common. Finasteride is used for both hair loss as well as hormone therapy for transgender people.
Re:What ever happened to the transhumanists? by yarg on Saturday August 06, 2022 @04:57AM (#32366307)
That was meant to say 'misrepresenting' (the phone said 'misre...ing' since the complete word didn't fit on the screen.