Re:Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records te...
by kurupt213 on Friday August 05, 2022 @12:03AM
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Communities are allowed to decide how they are composed.
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Re:Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records te...
by tptacek on Friday August 05, 2022 @12:05AM
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This is obviously not true in a variety of ways, and it inevitably won't be true in the way we're talking about here either, because the status quo doesn't work: it guarantees that every viable suburb is overwhelmingly SFZ, almost mathematically.
Re:Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records te...
by alexrtan on Friday August 05, 2022 @12:12AM
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In the same way San Francisco allows ice cream shops (or any business) to object to new competitors in their area, yes many “communities” also write rules that monopolize land in order to keep their property values high.
See: https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/heatherknight/article/S-F-...
Re:Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records te...
by renewiltord on Friday August 05, 2022 @02:37AM
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Sadly, no. If you're a community of people who want to develop your land in Atherton you won't be allowed to because a whole bunch of others (including Andreessen) want to stop you.
Re:Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records te...
by astrange on Friday August 05, 2022 @12:57AM
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They aren't allowed to decide that in other countries, just here, and almost everything that happened as a result of that was bad.
Been to Japan? France? Pretty nice places.
Re:Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records te...
by proxyon on Friday August 05, 2022 @02:28AM
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Aren't those some of the most expensive countries on Earth for housing?
Re:Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records te...
by astrange on Friday August 05, 2022 @02:57AM
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No, housing isn't expensive in Japan, certainly nowhere near how bad it is in US cities. Housing prices are more or less flat in Tokyo over decades, even, because they constantly build more of it. (It's cheap in the rest of the country, but that doesn't mean much because nobody wants to live there and there aren't jobs.)
Not saying it's great; Japanese wages are too low and their landlords are abusive (moving is expensive, you have to pay a lot of "key money", and they're free to discriminate against foreigners). But the housing crisis is an Anglo problem - it's bad in the US/UK/Canada/Australia.
Not sure about France specifically, I was just saying Paris is a nice city.
Re:Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records te...
by jdminhbg on Friday August 05, 2022 @12:17AM
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No, they obviously are not allowed to decide that at all, unless you think communities can decide that no Asians may buy houses within their borders.
Re:Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records te...
by rootusrootus on Friday August 05, 2022 @12:44AM
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That's disingenuous, race is a protected class. High density housing isn't.
Sometimes we seem to like the idea of democracy, sometimes we don't. That's the tension here.
Re:Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records te...
by jdminhbg on Friday August 05, 2022 @01:04AM
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How is it disingenuous? OP asserted that communities are "allowed to decide how they are composed," and they obviously are not. Which decisions we allow communities to make is the entire question.
Re:Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records te...
by rootusrootus on Friday August 05, 2022 @10:18AM
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Protected classes are already protected, so it is absolutely disingenuous to try and suggest that if we allow communities to have a say in their own composition we would have to allow them to discriminate based on race.
Re:Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records te...
by tptacek on Friday August 05, 2022 @12:48AM
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High density housing isn't protected because we choose not to protect it. But that's changing, thankfully.
Re:Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records te...
by closeparen on Friday August 05, 2022 @01:29AM
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The state of California is a community. The United States is a community.