If it's any consolation, people with above average incomes are more likely to fill these sites, so I think they are skewed upwards.

People also lie, often even to themselves.

I'm with you. At Thales (big french tech company), AFAIU there's essentially no way of reaching 60kEUR/year without becoming a manager. And even then, reaching 100K requires climbing a lot more levels.

> At Thales (big french tech company), AFAIU there's essentially no way of reaching 60kEUR/year without becoming a manager.

You're probably thinking of after-tax salary, also known as take-home pay (5k/month in your example).

Salary is almost always discussed in pre-tax terms, because two employees with the same salary can get very different tax deductions based on their family situation etc. This website is no exception, as far as I can see.

(Of course, this makes sense when comparing within the same country. When comparing different countries, tax rates are already different before you consider discounts.)

> You're probably thinking of after-tax salary

I am not.

> Salary is almost always discussed in pre-tax terms

That's correct.

Wayfair, Amazon, and MS probably pay above the market. But I heard 100k+ is typical for senior SE. While 80k has been on the higher end just 2-3 years ago. That’s for Berlin.

Here in Austria 60k-65k is pretty high end for a senior SE... I should probably move to Germany.