Re:Why do Programmers get paid less than Project Managers or...
by barry-cotter on Sunday November 13, 2011 @01:42PM
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The Socratic method is one of the most annoying things ever, not the kind of thing that will be accepted by equals. It is a poor method of information/knowledge transfer, and thus wastes the time of the person looking for info while prolonging the period in which they are asking for something. It is close to a perfect example of claiming higher status than another. None of this calculation is normally said or even thought, but it is felt. People who appreciate the Socratic method, done well, are a small minority, and it is usually done badly.
Re:Why do Programmers get paid less than Project Managers or...
by dfc on Sunday November 13, 2011 @08:29AM
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Whomever is doing the downvoting on all of my posts on this topic please speak up. Why the down voting? Because I do not share your opinion?
Re:Why do Programmers get paid less than Project Managers or...
by parfe on Sunday November 13, 2011 @09:39AM
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You come off both condescending and lazy when using the Socratic method with peers. Either clearly state your positions or take the downvotes.
Socratic method works in a student-teacher relation. By using it here on the message board you immediately assert that you know the true answer while the rest of us only know ignorance.
Re:Why do Programmers get paid less than Project Managers or...
by dennisgorelik on Sunday November 13, 2011 @01:37PM
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Socratic method is neither condescending nor lazy.
Besides, Socratic questions can turn into regular questions with unexpected answer.
Re:Why do Programmers get paid less than Project Managers or...
by msbarnett on Sunday November 13, 2011 @08:54AM
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You're not making any real arguments in any of your posts (except the grandparent to this one), in my opinion. When confronted with the assertion "X", responding with "does anyone else feel not-X?" or "the same reason Y?" strike me as lazy rhetorical cheats to assert your opinion while trying to avoid just laying out an argument for it.
As such, people seem to be downvoting them as noise.
Re:Why do Programmers get paid less than Project Managers or...
by Selvik on Sunday November 13, 2011 @09:23AM
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I think they shouldn't (upvoted all of them for balance) the analogy is valid and ought to be obviously so. Programming is not the only industry where the best "craftsmen" often make less than the "middlemen", that's a very common pattern.
The other answer is that the wage is a reflection of market value / cost of labor. I think that's probably a function of supply.