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Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by reincarnate0x14 on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:32PM (#32254556)
I gave the police a 4k camera video of a crime happening and they did nothing with it. This is pretty standard police laziness in the US, individual cops might care but departments overall give zero shits for small people except as revenue sources.

Data ownership issues like this in the US will never be pushed by existing political interests, hopefully we'll see more EFF-ish PACs in the future that take a page from the fascists and provide the written laws and bills they would like enacted to state and municipal governments so local representatives can edit the title block and get back to harassing their interns.

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Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by tedivm on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @03:51PM (#32255894)
When I was younger our house was robbed and some prescription drugs stolen. Not only did we know who did it, we had text messages where they admitted it and a witness who came forward. The police refused to do anything about it, and told us that if we wanted them to do anything at all we should consider voting for a different mayor.
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Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by Buttons840 on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @04:09PM (#32256162)
Because the mayor created policies that tied the police's hands? Or because they just wanted a different mayor ("vote that librul out or we ain't doing shit" type of thing)?
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Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by jonathankoren on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @05:10PM (#32257008)
Probably because they just want a different mayor. Mayors and prosecutors don't have the ability to tie cops' hands. Even council and plebiscite acts to direct the police to treat certain crimes as "lowest priority" are routinely ignored. Mix in decades of copaganda and qualified immunity, and you get American cops that aren't accountable to anyone.
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Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by epicide on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @04:13PM (#32256231)
I read it as more "we won't do anything unless the mayor forces us and we know this one won't".
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Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by tedivm on Thursday July 28, 2022 @10:55AM (#32265203)
They didn't like the mayor because he supported a civilian audit board. This was eventually forced on the city anyways by the DoJ due to the unbelievably rampant corruption and abuse in the department.

Springfield, Massachusetts if you're curious.

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Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by evancox100 on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @04:38PM (#32256586)
Actually I think the police should take direction from a democratically elected mayor. The problem is that they are most often not politically accountable to anyone at all. Not sure about the particulars of your situation, but that is a very odd response.
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Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by icelancer on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @05:37PM (#32257346)
Same. I even know who stole stuff from our place of business and found the eBay listing tied to the person who did it. And yet, nothing.
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Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by throwoutway on Thursday July 28, 2022 @01:04PM (#32267149)
It’s not just the US. This happened to me in a west European nation as well
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