Please don't take HN threads further into nationalistic flamewar. I know how incredibly frustrating and upsetting it is to be representing a minority point of view amid a majority who say a lot of ignorant things, as majorities everywhere do. But you still have to follow the rules, even from that position. They are here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html, and if you'd please review them and stick to them in the future, we'd appreciate it.

It's also very much in your interest to do so, because when you lash out, as you did here and in other places in this thread, you only reinforce the position you're arguing against and discredit the truth you're trying to represent.

I've tried to explain this same point to other users in similar situations in the past. Perhaps some of those explanations would be helpful, if you or anyone want to take a look: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor....

One consequence of this dynamic is that the burden is much higher on the person arguing for a minority or contrarian view. You can make the point that this is not fair, and indeed the unfairness gets intensely worse, the stronger everyone's emotions are. Nonetheless, it's just the way it is. Fair or not, it's in your interest to develop the capacity to resist these temptations, and fair or not, we end up having to ban the accounts that won't—not because they're wrong, or because we disagree, but because the forum won't survive if we allow people to keep breaking these rules.

No it’s spot on. Check the response by the chess association. They blame the boy. In Russia, it’s your fault and there will be bureaucratic treacle to wade through instantly.

I’ve worked with many people from that region over the years and dated one and it’s absolutely right.

It’s also why lots of people left.

Wasn’t a bad dating experience. We’re still friends. She moved out of Russia because no one would investigate why her brother disappeared on a government job. It was her problem. It was his fault.

She calls her own people culturally defective.

> the robot started misbehaving

Or rather, when “the device malfunctioned”.

This was closer to an industrial accident, rather than to Robot Revolt.

But yeah, the response is appalling.

> and also project bad dating experience

Um what? Maybe you should step away from the internet for a while?

Maybe you should consider that when a person brings up their dating experience to support their spite towards some culture in a discussion about a child's broken finger, they actually couldn't care less about the child, eh?

There is really no other reason to bring "I dated someone Russian" into this discussion other than spite.

No, there's something wrong with the people who go around this and don't say a thing because it's not even weird to them.

Not letting people (and much less children) around industrial robots is not virtue signalling, it's basic safety and common sense. Where's everyone's protective headgear anyways? What if it starts spinning around because of an error in the Gcode? This thing could kill everyone around it with one swing. Where's the emergency stop button?

Don't switch the topic. You were saying something about blaming the kid and suddenly you are discussing the safety issues.

Also, you haven't seen much chess robots, have you? "Industrial robot", my ass. Have you actually seen one? The one that "could kill everyone with one swing" is a tad different.

I think you're mistaking me with someone else.

Yep, I've seen and programmed many industrial robots. You would be surprised how easy it can be to kill a human with a swinging robotic arm, even a small one (such as the one here). Even a relatively light hit at the back of the head can be fatal.

Um the discussion was revolving around a chess tournament organized (by admission of the moscow chess open website) part of the Russian government. As you know, Russian government right now has been agressively sending tanks into neighboring nations with the very flags of the USSR, including the hammer and sickle, while that same government goes on 45 minute tirades about restoring the glory of uniting former soviet satellites. So you know this discussion about the policies of the chess organizers, the russian government, has a lot to do with the USSR.

On a technical implementation of the robot I agree completely. On the policy level I concede I am not very familiar with policies of the USSR, but it is a policy decision of the Russian government organizer to allow the placement of the robot, a robot that many organizers would deem not safe for interaction with children. Recent policy in Russia indicates they still have a lot of legacies left from the USSR.

Sorry, but that's called "maximalism".