Re:Formal Algorithms for Transformers
by lynguist on Thursday July 21, 2022 @10:07AM
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I find the distinction introduced in this paper into encoder-decoder Transformers, encoder-only Transformers and decoder-only Transformers very useful for my informal understanding of the different architectures. Thank you for this clear clarification.
Re:Formal Algorithms for Transformers
by godelski on Thursday July 21, 2022 @05:18PM
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I'm curious about this comment and it being the top comment. Is this something people don't know? Everything in this paper was introduced in Attention Is All You Need[0]. They introduced Dot Product Attention, which is what everyone just refers to now as Attention, and they talk about the decoder and encoder framework. The encoder is just self attention `softmax(<q(x),k(x)>)v(x)` and decoder includes joint attention `softmax(<q(x),k(x)>)v(y)`
I have a lot of complaints about this paper because it only covers topics addressed in the main attention paper (Vaswani) and I can't see how it accomplishes anything but pulling citations away from grad students who did survey papers on Attention, which are more precise and have more coverage of the field. As a quick search, here's a survey paper from last year that has more in depth discussion and more mathematical precision[1].
Maybe because this is an area of research adjacent to my active area, but I'm a little confused at the attention (pun intended) it is getting. Seems just like Deep Mind's name is the major motivation.
Re:Formal Algorithms for Transformers
by godelski on Thursday July 21, 2022 @01:04PM
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I can't tell who this paper is aimed at. It isn't formal. It isn't mathematical. It isn't a good description and doesn't have good coverage. I can only assume it is for citations.
Re:Formal Algorithms for Transformers
by uoaei on Thursday July 21, 2022 @12:40PM
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This field moves very quickly. I don't think anyone can be expected to keep up who don't make it a weekly study subject or are actively employed in it.
I have a lot of complaints about this paper because it only covers topics addressed in the main attention paper (Vaswani) and I can't see how it accomplishes anything but pulling citations away from grad students who did survey papers on Attention, which are more precise and have more coverage of the field. As a quick search, here's a survey paper from last year that has more in depth discussion and more mathematical precision[1].
Maybe because this is an area of research adjacent to my active area, but I'm a little confused at the attention (pun intended) it is getting. Seems just like Deep Mind's name is the major motivation.
[0] https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.03762
[1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.04554
> Some 100+ page papers contain only a few lines of prose informally describing the model [RBC+21]. At best there are some high-level diagrams
This is ironic considering they use more words to describe chunking (splitting along a dimension, x,y = a[0,:,:,:], a[1,:,:,:]) than multi-heads.
https://jalammar.github.io/illustrated-transformer/
https://medium.com/pytorch/training-compact-transformers-fro...