The reason that systems of economic sanctions exist is to provide alternatives to war. Europe learned some very rough lessons in the 20th century and earlier, leading up to the formation of the EU and before that the formation of the UN. These institutions and other institutions were created by people with memories of large-scale war fresh in their minds.

I am not talking about this. I am talking about the fact that it is an oligarchy who chooses whether we go to war or not. I do not think most spanish think that Spain should be involved in a war that is at the other side of Europe where either of those country did anything to us. This is what I mean.

These wars respond to oligarchies interests, not to normal citizens interests.

I do not know if you get my point. Maybe there are real problems in Ukraine, well there are. But how is that really a reason to involve Spain? Why? Diplomacy, yes, sending weapons no. What if Russia decides we are in a black list later? Were we able to make a choice? Bc this involves our security and our economy and affects normal citizens.

So there is necessarily someone interested in this that is not normal, average people like me.

If we are going to make mistakes, I hope we make new mistakes, instead of making the same mistakes from 100 years ago.

If you find this truth to be offensive, tragic, or overly inconvenient, well... so do all who live to see such times, as the guy with the long gray beard said.

Ask yourself what Ukranian citizens would answer to that question.

You are arguing you should continue to help fund the war, the weapons, the rapes and murders by Russian forces while they invade Ukraine.

You might have dressed it up in pretty prose, but your position is "guess a little genocide is just something we have to live with".

To me it makes no sense, honestly.

I declare myself neutral and the last thing I wanted is my country to be involved in this stuff (and others).

Of course, at the same time I think that Russian invasion was stupid and a mistake. This is a power game and nothing else. I just want to live normal, not to get into unnecessary trouble. Diplomacy would have been better. And if diplomacy does not work, I do not know why Spain should be further involved. I can understand that countries close such as Latvia, Finland, Poland, etc. take a non-neutral position on this. But Spain? Seriously...

Assuming you are actually German (based on your username), you really shouldn’t require a particularly deep history lesson to understand why Russia is a problem. Jesus fuck man, the brick line runs through the center of your own capital city.

Germán is a name, equivalent to Germain, Armand or Herman.

Until it is your ass that's on the line I guess?