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Ask HN: How to think on the spot and persuade?

One of the biggest flaws I have is not being able to think and argue on the spot. I suspect it has to do with how grown I've become to Internet forums, which gave me the freedom to go back and edit what I wrote.

Often times when I get into a heated debate, I get flustered from being in the moment. But then I'll usually think of a really good counter-argument like thirty minutes later. Is there any sort of training or maybe any books that I could look into to help me get over this?

I feel this is a very fundamental skill to have anywhere. Thanks!

( 6 comments | 5 points | on HN )
Re:Ask HN: How to think on the spot and persuade? by coryl on Wednesday November 09, 2011 @06:18AM (#3215098)
I have no idea what I'm talking about, but if you get lost, you can frame your argument in an analogy and build your way up from there. As long as your argument is rational, you can find parallel examples in almost any topic (especially topics you're deeply familiar with!). This kind of arguing doesn't rely on fact, but broad general concepts, which should give you a lot of leeway for where you want to take your discussion.
Re:Ask HN: How to think on the spot and persuade? by JoachimSchipper on Wednesday November 09, 2011 @05:01AM (#3214956)
Practice should help; there are debate clubs for that. Or try debating politics - it's mostly useless, but you'll never lack willing opponents. Knowing your subject very well helps, too. Staying calm is always useful; I have no recommendation on how to achieve that, though (I never really had to work for that.)
Re:Ask HN: How to think on the spot and persuade? by qas1981 on Saturday November 19, 2011 @12:12PM (#3255656)
I have seen many people have this issue. Being very smart and not being able to construct and argument on the feet. I always advise them to join Toastmasters. I'm a member and it has greatly improved my persuasive abilities.
Re:Ask HN: How to think on the spot and persuade? by systemtrigger on Wednesday November 09, 2011 @10:10AM (#3215711)
The trick to speaking well is practice. Talk through your arguments in a safe calm environment, speak freeform without stopping, record and watch your practice sessions. If that sounds like too much work, try Toastmasters.
Re:Ask HN: How to think on the spot and persuade? by systemtrigger on Saturday November 12, 2011 @03:51PM (#3228871)
Better yet, have long conversations with people who speak well and with whom you resonate.
Re:Ask HN: How to think on the spot and persuade? by mapster on Wednesday November 09, 2011 @09:45AM (#3215585)
Expect to be challenged when conversing. When speaking, prepare your next point. Appear calmer and more confident than the other person. Relax.