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Re:Bill Watterson’s refusal to license Calvin and Hobbes (2016) by mc32 on Saturday July 16, 2022 @09:26AM (#32117819)
Charles Schulz commercialized Charlie Brown. He’s the opposite of Bill Watterson but at the same time he wasn’t Mickey Mouse.

The whole concept of selling out is both particular to a person or in group and also cultural. A related concept is ‘poser’ or ‘poseur’. I think it’s more about fans thinking they’re losing their importance vis a vis the performer or artist. The artist is no longer “exclusive” to them, so to speak as well as no longer an idealized representation of them, the fans.

Re:Bill Watterson’s refusal to license Calvin and Hobbes (2016) by egypturnash on Saturday July 16, 2022 @09:45AM (#32118021)
I feel like Watterson’s stance about licensing was in no small part a direct response to the way Schulz never met a deal he didn’t like. At the time Calvin & Hobbes was becoming successful, there was Peanuts stuff everywhere. Snoopy was in commercials selling life insurance, and it really did feel like this was taking something important out of a small-scale, moody strip about disillusionment and failure.
Re:Bill Watterson’s refusal to license Calvin and Hobbes (2016) by thaumasiotes on Saturday July 16, 2022 @02:21PM (#32120541)
> I feel like Watterson’s stance about licensing was in no small part a direct response to the way Schulz never met a deal he didn’t like.

Was it his choice? I swear one of the introductions in The Complete Peanuts talks about how Charles Schulz spent much of his life trying to buy back the copyright to his strip.

Re:Bill Watterson’s refusal to license Calvin and Hobbes (2016) by egypturnash on Saturday July 16, 2022 @06:24PM (#32122492)
It has been a long time since I last read any bio material on Schultz so that could certainly be the case! In which case Watterson's lack of licensing becomes more of a triumph of the artist's wishes that's similar to the way Eastman and Laird learnt from the way Marvel fucked over Jack Kirby, and made sure they retained ownership of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

(Which let them do things like "buy Heavy Metal and run it at a loss for a while" and "start a publishing company that became infamous for handing out huge advances to their comics buddies that let them spend a couple years on passion projects instead of turning the Superhero Crank for Marvel/DC", both of which I feel are perfectly delightful ways to deal with making the kind of money they made off the Turtles. The history of Tundra Press is a hell of a ride, if you can find it.)

Re:Bill Watterson’s refusal to license Calvin and Hobbes (2016) by selimthegrim on Saturday July 16, 2022 @01:46PM (#32120272)
Didn’t Schultz also criticize other illustrators (including Watterson) for taking sabbaticals as he thought it was unprofessional?
Re:Bill Watterson’s refusal to license Calvin and Hobbes (2016) by egypturnash on Saturday July 16, 2022 @02:00PM (#32120385)
I don't remember that but I don't feel like it's something out of character for Ol' Sparky. Been a heck of a long time since I last read his bio.
Re:Bill Watterson’s refusal to license Calvin and Hobbes (2016) by 9991 on Sunday July 17, 2022 @06:29AM (#32125686)
Well he's on sabbatical now ...
Re:Bill Watterson’s refusal to license Calvin and Hobbes (2016) by selimthegrim on Sunday July 17, 2022 @01:46PM (#32129129)
This was in the early 90s.
Re:Bill Watterson’s refusal to license Calvin and Hobbes (2016) by jfax on Saturday July 16, 2022 @09:53AM (#32118098)
Well, both Charles Schulz and Watterson placed immense value in craftsmanship, in that they both valued that their work was untampered by anyone else. Schulz maintained that the strip was unaffected by licensing.

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/selling-newspaper-comic-...

Re:Bill Watterson’s refusal to license Calvin and Hobbes (2016) by HWR_14 on Saturday July 16, 2022 @10:01AM (#32118175)
Of the various things you may condemn Walt Disney for, he placed an immense value in craftsmanship as well.
Re:Bill Watterson’s refusal to license Calvin and Hobbes (2016) by mc32 on Saturday July 16, 2022 @10:32AM (#32118525)
That’s true no doubt. I think when most people criticize Walt it’s about his empire building. Obviously he also had an iron grip on his IP but leveraged that to amplify his empire and to expand into all sorts of other areas. Whereas Bill wanted to limit exposure. So the focus of their visions were markedly different.
Re:Bill Watterson’s refusal to license Calvin and Hobbes (2016) by HWR_14 on Saturday July 16, 2022 @11:44AM (#32119201)
Yes, I was commenting on the distinction the above poster was trying to Walt Disney and Charles Schultz (of Peanuts) to move Schultz closer to Watterson.
Re:Bill Watterson’s refusal to license Calvin and Hobbes (2016) by ConceptJunkie on Monday July 18, 2022 @10:53AM (#32139079)
Schulz did protect his legacy, as can be demonstrated by what has been done with his creations since he passed away. For example, the Peanuts movie from a few years ago was wonderful, and every bit as much in the spirit of what Sparky did when he was working on those things directly. Yes, Peanuts was heavily merchandized, but I still feel that the property has its dignity.

Unlike what happened with Dr. Seuss. Of course, no one can totally control what happens with his or her creations after he or she passes away. Look at how the vultures descended the moment Christopher Tolkien passed away.