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Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by btilly on Thursday July 14, 2022 @10:22AM (#32096415)
The staged stuff doesn't bother me as much as the dangerous stuff:

https://www.fastcompany.com/90287323/people-are-falling-off-...

Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by AlexandrB on Thursday July 14, 2022 @11:19AM (#32097127)
> A British YouTuber named Jay Swingler performed a dangerous stunt about a year ago. He placed a plastic bag with a breathing tube over his head, then “glued” his head to the inside of a microwave oven with expanding plaster. The plaster set, and Swingler couldn’t get his head out of the microwave. It took a team of paramedics to set him free.

Wow.

Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by phs318u on Thursday July 14, 2022 @06:28PM (#32102165)
The Darwin Awards - now an 8 part docu-series on YouTube Premium.
Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by winternett on Thursday July 14, 2022 @11:17AM (#32097094)
People get pushed to the brink in desperation after years of posting but not being noticed... It's tragic, but to be honest, a lot of the people that end up dying in an accident for doing dumb things would possibly be even more destructive if they succeeded each time.

Not everyone is cut out to be an entertainer, influencer, or celebrity. The problem in our current world is that social platforms are encouraging everyone to quit their job to be those types of entertainers (while not paying the very same people), and it's not a realistic model for success, and quite possibly very harmful to the world's future and to mental health.

It has happened in the past, Evel Knievel was one of the most popular incidents of someone sacrificing themselves to entertain others well prior to the "like and follow" era.

Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by robotnikman on Thursday July 14, 2022 @12:24PM (#32098103)
I'm reminded of the song 'Creature Comfort' by Arcade Fire

"God, make me famous. If you can't, just make it painless"

Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by branon on Thursday July 14, 2022 @10:39AM (#32096626)
Natural selection at work.
Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by autoexec on Thursday July 14, 2022 @06:01PM (#32101981)
I kind of agree. Stupid people doing dangerous things for "likes" usually deserve what they get, but it's not as if there aren't external costs they force on the rest of us for their idiocy. The 911 dispatcher whose line is tied up, the paramedic who has to scrape some dumb kid off the sidewalk, the doctors who'll do their best to save whatever's left, or any innocent bystanders caught up in the mess these people make. It's certainly behavior we'd be better off discouraging.
Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by oasisbob on Thursday July 14, 2022 @12:10PM (#32097907)
If you're implying social Darwinism being an expected natural consequence, you may want to research the history and abuses of the idea before accepting it and throwing it around so glibly.
Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by supercheetah on Thursday July 14, 2022 @03:38PM (#32100585)
Not even close to the same thing. Someone doing something to themselves that puts themselves in mortal danger isn't anywhere on the same level as wanting to eliminate an entire group of people based on some arbitrary attribute.

They should definitely be warned, and perhaps be put into therapy with a professional, but self harm isn't social darwinism. It's just a mental health issue.

Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by oasisbob on Friday July 15, 2022 @12:15PM (#32109663)
People who celebrate the deaths of others due to their lack of perceived intelligence is absolutely an example of natural selection being applied to an inappropriate, scientifically devoid situation.

I agree that self-harm isn't social Darwinism. People sharing amusing stories of self-harm and chuckling about "cleaning the gene pool" absolutely is.

Natural selection is not the right tool to downplay and excuse harm to others, and has nothing to do with the scientific theory of evolution.

Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by branon on Thursday July 14, 2022 @03:04PM (#32100177)
Couldn't even tell you what social Darwinism is. My comment was not political in nature, I was merely referring to the concept of natural selection in a literal sense.
Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by pdonis on Thursday July 14, 2022 @01:22PM (#32098928)
> If you're implying social Darwinism

I don't think the GP was referring to social Darwinism, just plain old Darwinism, of the "Darwin Award" variety.

Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by oasisbob on Friday July 15, 2022 @12:18PM (#32109702)
My point is that exactly. The "Darwin Award" variety IS a facetious form of social Darwinism.

It's not related to the science of evolution, it's using the principles of natural selection for social commentary.

Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by pdonis on Friday July 15, 2022 @02:40PM (#32111418)
> It's not related to the science of evolution

Yes, it is, at least to the extent that intelligence and common sense are selected for, and their opposites are selected against, in our current selective environment.

Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by oasisbob on Friday July 22, 2022 @02:16PM (#32195303)
If there's anything in the literature describing the increase in "common sense" among Homo sapiens due to evolutionary pressures, I'd love to read it.
Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by sizzle on Thursday July 14, 2022 @01:17PM (#32098862)
Got any good links?