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Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by notatoad on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @02:53PM (#32074199)
The Medium model is that you provide content, and they provide an audience. They're a middleman where both the author and reader is a customer of Medium, which puts them in the position of having to balance the needs of authors and readers.

The Substack model is that you provide both content and audience, and they provide hosting and monetization tools. They're a service provider where only the author is their customer, and so they're able to focus exclusively on what the authors need.

Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by nickjj on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @03:01PM (#32074312)
> The Medium model is that you provide content, and they provide an audience.

This doesn't happen in practice. Like most marketplaces they have an incentive to market things that are popular or appear to be trending. That means in order for Medium to promote your article you need to do the marketing with your own audience or outlets to get eyeballs on the article and after Medium flags your article as popular it might get promoted.

This is a really big concept because it means if you're just starting off with no audience you might as well grow your own audience on your platform because most marketplaces like Medium (and others) aren't heavily promoting folks with no prior audience.

I remember putting some of my blog posts on Medium and setting the canonical URL back to my site. Out of the hundreds of thousands of visits my personal blog got I only had a few hundred total hits on Medium. That's because I didn't promote and drive my own traffic to Medium and in turn they didn't promote me.

Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by andreilys on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @04:24PM (#32075169)
I started with no audience and got >100k reads on one of my articles because I used a medium publication.

This resulted in being able to build an audience that would read my work irrespective of whether I published with a publication.

Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by jmathai on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @05:03PM (#32075652)
Getting your content onto a Medium publication with a large and/or relevant following is such useful method of distribution. All of my most widely read Medium posts have been via a publication that I reached out to.
Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by johnchristopher on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @03:47PM (#32074776)
There's no way to pay Medium to promote your content on their platform ?
Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by nickjj on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @04:12PM (#32075025)
> There's no way to pay Medium to promote your content on their platform ?

That's not something I saw when I used Medium in 2018ish for some of my posts.

I know there was a partner program but that wasn't paying to get traffic to your posts. That was a mechanism to get paid based on how much engagement you had on your Medium articles. It's just another incentive to get you to drive your own traffic and audience to Medium to drive up Medium engagement. Basically helping Medium grow their business.

If you wanted to pay money to promote your content you can do that without Medium. You can buy ads on Google and other outlets then run ads to your blog posts. I don't do that personally but it's an option.

Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by ignoramous on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @03:49PM (#32074791)
So: Medium is to Amazon/Best Western, what Substack is to Shopify/Airbnb?

https://stratechery.com/2015/aggregation-theory/

Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by stefan_ on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @03:21PM (#32074504)
No wonder it's failed if that is the model, I've never arrived on Medium .. from Medium. It's like the Vimeo of text.
Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by xhkkffbf on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @05:28PM (#32075925)
The substack model seems to be more focused on building and supporting individual brands. So I don't think of visiting Substack, I think of checking out what X, Y or Z said. The Substack brand is subordinate to the individual blogs/writers.
Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by layer8 on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @03:34PM (#32074632)
> both the author and reader is a customer of Medium > only the author is [Substack’s] customer

That suggests that Medium should be more reader-friendly than Substack, but it seems the opposite is true. I suspect that even when readers are nominally customers on Medium, they are really still just the product (in the sense of “if it’s free, you’re the product” — except it’s not free here).

Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by blairbeckwith on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @03:51PM (#32074810)
Most (all good?) authors will prioritize good reader experience as one of their own requirements, so a good reader experience comes naturally downstream from being author-first.
Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by blowski on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @02:56PM (#32074244)
So they don’t promote content in the way that Medium tries to do?
Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by erichocean on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @05:41PM (#32076042)
Correct, no promotion at all.
Re:Ev Williams to step down from Medium by GekkePrutser on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @03:46AM (#32079995)
There is some discovery if you go look for it actually. It's just toned down and left for the user's initiative, instead of bugging you every chance it gets :)