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Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by capableweb on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @06:52AM (#32068051)
Is there any Europe-based PaaS currently operating, that are noteworthy? Most companies seems to be US-based.
Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by yannski on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @07:43AM (#32068440)
Scalingo https://scalingo.com is basically a french Heroku-compatible PaaS based on a reliable french IaaS (Outscale, cloud subsidiary of Dassault Systemes, the famous maker of Catia, Solidworkds, etc)
Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by fbn79 on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @07:16AM (#32068247)
Lidl (germany supermarket company) backed STACKIT?

https://www.stackit.de/en/cloud/products-services/

Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by netgusto on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @07:00AM (#32068102)
There's https://scalingo.com/ Works well.
Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by Veen on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @11:02AM (#32070992)
I understand the intent of the question, but in this case a UK-based alternative would be preferable, not just a European alternative. The UK is more likely to find itself at odds with France than the U.S.

That thought reminds me of a conversation in an episode of Yes Prime Minister:

> Hacker: I sometimes wonder why we need the [nuclear] weapons.

> Sir Humphrey: Minister! You're not a unilateralist?

> Hacker: I sometimes wonder, you know.

> Sir Humphrey: Well, then, you must resign from the government!

> Hacker: Ah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not that unilateralist! Anyway, the Americans will always protect us from the Russians, won't they?

> Sir Humphrey: Russians? Who's talking about the Russians?

> Hacker: Well, the independent deterrent.

> Sir Humphrey: It's to protect us against the French!

Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by capableweb on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @12:24PM (#32072238)
> but in this case a UK-based alternative would be preferable

For you maybe, but not for me :) I just took advantage of the threat to ask a slightly unrelated question (although parent mentioned Ireland as well, so maybe slightly on topic at least)

Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by chadwcarlson on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @10:20AM (#32070367)
Platform.sh is another (employee here). We're a French PaaS and DevOps platform. So we provide hosting, but also every bit of operations needed to provision infrastructure and true staging environments for every pull request/branch with just a `git branch`. We work with Azure, GCP, AWS for 9+ regions across the globe, many of those in Europe. This has allowed us to also provide the backend for OVHCloud's WebPaaS (https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-gb/web-paas/) behind-the-scenes.
Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by harry-wood on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @07:20AM (#32068271)
Memset is based in the UK. Used them a few years back, but I'm afraid we moved to AWS after a few too many reliability issues.
Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by jeromenerf on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @10:42AM (#32070708)
"Europe based": yes, we are french.

"Currently operating": yes, steadily, for seven years now.

"Noteworthy": yes, I really hope we are, at least, we have been quite newsworthy recently

"Most companies seems to be US-based": well, we have US employees and we are running on top of US based companies infrastructure, amongst others.

o/

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platform.sh

Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by capableweb on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @12:26PM (#32072260)
"If I sign up to your service and deploy stuff to one of your Europe-based data centers, will my data ever land on a US-based company's servers?" [______]

Edit: Apparently not! Didn't even have to sign up to the service (just loaded the landing page) and my data ended up on some US-based (Google) entity's servers (fonts.googleapis.com).

Looks like a nice platform, unfortunately doesn't seem too privacy-aware so gonna have to find something else.

Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by genousti on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @04:01PM (#32074916)
It will. As long as the company does business in the us then american governmenet can force access to data hosted somewhere else. They did it in the past theyll do it again
Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by tazjin on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @07:06AM (#32068160)
Yandex, I guess.

You also have a variety of smaller providers hosting OpenStack, which gives you some platformy services.

Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by Hamuko on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @07:17AM (#32068251)
If you count Russia to be European, which is debatable from both a cultural and a geographical perspective. Yandex only has one data center outside of Russia/definitely in Europe, and last I heard, they needed 600,000€ worth of diesel per day to keep it running.
Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by trasz on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @09:17AM (#32069460)
Russia is definitely not European from business perspective; it’s closer to North Korea now.
Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by sofixa on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @09:37AM (#32069721)
There's Scaleway that provide managed Kubernetes and also "serverless" (containers or functions as a service, based on Knative).
Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by eastbound on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @07:03AM (#32068134)
Is OVH a PaaS?
Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by jonatron on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @07:05AM (#32068148)
If Managed Kubernetes counts as a PaaS, maybe? https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-gb/public-cloud/kubernetes/
Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by OriPekelman on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @06:54AM (#32080997)
Well they have many offerings one of which is a PaaS https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ie/web-paas/
Re:Why we’ve decided to decommission Gov.uk PaaS by rorymalcolm on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @08:39AM (#32068973)
I feel the biggest PaaS offerrings in Europe are internal deployments within the enterprise!