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Re:ISO name change for Türkiye by bbu on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @05:19AM (#32067439)
Only sz should use ß. Ss stays ss even in German-german. Switzerland got rid of the sz/ss distinction a long time ago. So you need to be culture and word aware to do it „right“.
Re:ISO name change for Türkiye by korlja on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @06:04AM (#32067736)
'sz' for 'ß' is sometimes used to make things roundtrip-proof in capslock, e.g. on military stencils. HTML calls it 'szlig'. Also, some use "Esszet" as the name of the character. But all are wrong in that ß isn't a ligature of s and z, it is a ligature of s and s. The shape of the character stems from the fact that in fractur writing and even some grotesk fonts, 's' at the end of a word was written 's', while 's' within a word was written 'ſ'. Thus the end of a word like Fuss was written Fuſs, giving a ligature of Fuß. No 'z' anywhere.
Re:ISO name change for Türkiye by kmm on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @08:22AM (#32068790)
Originally ß arose as a ligature of s and z, or rather ſ and ʒ. In many older texts, or even current fonts, the second part of the ligature is indisputably a long-tailed ʒ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9F

Re:ISO name change for Türkiye by seszett on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @08:33AM (#32068915)
> some use "Esszet" as the name of the character

I believe the actual name is Eszett.

Re:ISO name change for Türkiye by wanderingstan on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @09:35AM (#32069686)
Only “wrong” in light of current usage, but not historically.

By this measure, the English name of “W” would be wrong because it’s not actually a “double-U” but a “double-V”. But at the time of the letter’s formation, U and V were not yet separate letters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W

Re:ISO name change for Türkiye by jfk13 on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @01:08PM (#32072889)
The Swedes get this "right", and call it [ˈdɵ̂bːɛlˌveː].

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_alphabet

Re:ISO name change for Türkiye by kaetemi on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @07:39PM (#32077226)
In Dutch it's even more sane, the alphabet just goes V = vee, W = wee.
Re:ISO name change for Türkiye by wanderingstan on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @03:32PM (#32074617)
Oh wow, didn’t know that!
Re:ISO name change for Türkiye by samatman on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @04:39PM (#32075369)
French as well, although the elegance gained is quickly tarnished by calling y "Greek i".
Re:ISO name change for Türkiye by mzs on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @06:12PM (#32076354)
I always thought that German z used to look something between Ꙁ & з. ʒ looks pretty close so ſз became ß but Latin transliteration rules were ss instead. At least that's what I was taught in German class.