No way. It's almost impossible to become homeless in Sweden while you have the entire homeless villages everywhere. People with disability get paid a living income and are allowed to save money, which they aren't in the US. Then we have tons of other services like child care, health care and universally just way better everything regarding infrastructure and social service. I've lived half my life in each place and honestly the difference is Grand Canyon sized. Even Portugal, one of the poorest still has great free healthcare and all kinds of social safety net sand services.

You might get two or three days or something like that, and then everyone pats themselves on the back saying how progressive we are.

It's absolutely horrific when you consider people may have medical issues which cause them to need to take a bit more time off.

But guess what, you now have insane medical bills, and pressure to get back to work. It's not unheard of for a woman to just get fired if she takes off too much time for a pregnancy.

Sure, that's illegal, but workers are treated so horribly in America. You're lucky to get your paycheck half the time.

For Sweden it's close to 100%.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20210624-why-doesnt-the...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homeles...

edit: Digging into the sources, the US has 6.4 unsheltered homeless per 10k, but Sweden doesn't even track unsheltered homeless, the most acute category (at 4.5/10k) also contains people in immediate access shelter/hospice.

I think a more general statement could be made. It's nearly useless to make comparisons between countries. The United States cannot adopt Swedish policies and expect to achieve Swedish outcomes. I'd much prefer we discuss policies for our countries in our own contexts rather than introducing comparisons between them.

The parent comment introduced a comparison, though. So, I think it's only fair to introduce some form of statistics.

Thanks for providing a more founded empirical interpretation of the facts! It seems Sweden has some edge on the USA, but the original claim (that it's almost impossible to be homeless in Sweden) still seems as unfounded as I expected.

As another commentator noted, I think climate is something to consider. I expect that you'll find higher concentrations of shelter-less people in more temperate (or at least warm) places. Cultures will evolve to prevent people from needlessly dying, but we aren't inclined to give more than the bare minimum.

And this isn't what anyone seriously proposing for the US to take control of its social issues to do. The mention of other countries usually is just to show it can be done, to be inspired by it and forge your own way to solve social issues.

I don't know why it's usually taken in this absolutist view, where solutions should be implemented as-is because it worked somewhere else. It worked, get inspired by it and figure a way out of the hole in your own local environment...

Yeah, Sweden and the US are different, people are still people and have some overlapping needs, learn how others have done instead of this hubris of "we're different". Everyone is.

GP probably meant it's almost impossible to become homeless in Sweden because of a lack of a social safety net alone.

And one bit of Swedish society that is a bit invisible to the outside: it has an extremely draconian approach to drug abuse. Even though it's a Nordic country and touted for being socially progressive, drug policy here is extremely regressive when compared to Portugal or the Netherlands.

So usually the homeless I see in Stockholm are addicts (alcohol, heroin, amphetamines) that fall through the cracks of the system as they won't stop abusing substances which Swedish policies have no way around to help them, it's extremely punitive for drug use, as even use is a criminal offence. In the case you are taken in custody by the police they may force a drug test and if detected you'll be punished.

This all compounds to leave a marginalised population that has inadequate support to fight their addictions (usually caused by mental health issues) and kept in limbo between the streets and courts to be ordered to get clean.

Sweden: 36 homeless + 7 incarcerated per 10k

U.S.: 17 homeless + 64 incarcerated per 10k

All that list means is the US vastly under-counts actual homeless people. This is the same well known effect we see in suicide statistics: Sweden just keeps far more accurate statistics.

> the main gap is just that for working-aged people there is no universal healthcare in the US

What about those who have health insurance but have huge medical bills?

Most upper middle class jobs offer different plans with different maximums and monthly payments.