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Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by karaterobot on Monday July 11, 2022 @12:19PM (#32058154)
Yeah, ironic because Blockbuster is what killed off the mom and pop stores it now stands in for in our collective memory of the 90s.

I actually liked our local Blockbuster, and have fond memories of it, but only because it was run by the same employees from the independent video store it drove out of business. I liked that one even better.

Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by artificial on Monday July 11, 2022 @12:24PM (#32058230)
This reminds me of smaller bookstores prior to the era of Borders and Barnes and Noble dominance. pours one out
Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by legitster on Monday July 11, 2022 @12:32PM (#32058359)
Smaller bookstores are actually doing pretty okay these days: https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2020/02/18/indie-bookstores-com...

Mostly because Amazon decimated corporate chains, which freed up more market for independent stores.

Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by ghaff on Monday July 11, 2022 @12:42PM (#32058484)
Though independents are still a pretty niche business. Around where I am there are certainly far fewer of them than there were before the big chains became dominant.
Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by legitster on Monday July 11, 2022 @01:48PM (#32059312)
I don't know. I'm in a pretty redneck county and even here there are dozen independent bookstores.

Most of them are tied to a coffeeshop though. But if you check your local map you might be surprised.

Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by pessimizer on Monday July 11, 2022 @04:34PM (#32061438)
Even the article said there were 10-15 bookstores in a place that had 35 of them in the 70s.
Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by bluedino on Monday July 11, 2022 @12:57PM (#32058656)
How are they still in business, by the way? It seemed like they were just a Starbucks location with a ton of overhead, I thought we'd seen the last of them when pandemic shut everything down.

I loved B&N by the way, more computer-related books than WaldenBooks, but not as many as Borders.

Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by munificent on Monday July 11, 2022 @01:33PM (#32059090)
> How are they still in business, by the way?

They've broadened out into being general "gift stores". My local Barnes and Noble has a large toys section (mostly LEGO and educational stuff), board games, puzzles, music (lots of vinyl), stationery (fancy journals).

It's essentially "stuff introverts like" in a nice space.

Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by jabroni_salad on Monday July 11, 2022 @04:17PM (#32061224)
Around the time of the pandemic they implemented a strategic change to have local management arrange the store rather than auctioning shelf placement to publishers like most other retailers do. This has actually made B&N pretty nice to browse compared to a few years ago.
Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by bombcar on Monday July 11, 2022 @01:27PM (#32059020)
Because "Starbucks with overhead" is a surprisingly effective business model apparently; though if you go into one you'll notice that there are a lot more chotchkeys for sale near the front of the store (even LEGO lol).
Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by legitster on Monday July 11, 2022 @12:26PM (#32058258)
> Blockbuster is what killed off the mom and pop stores

Is there a source for this? Usually, both rise and fall together with consumer demand. When I grew up, Blockbuster was one of a dozen options in town.

As an example, there are more independent coffee shops today than before Starbucks expanded.

Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by bombcar on Monday July 11, 2022 @01:29PM (#32059047)
Starbucks grew the "expensive coffee" market, and so independents had a niche to slip into (expensive, but not Starbucks) - Blockbuster did nothing to grow the "rental movie" market, and a given market in an area is roughly limited to the number of houses in said market.

People drink less office/gas station coffee than they used to, and so can drink more Starbucks/independent coffee. The same didn't happen to the mom and pop video rental places (though the ones that survived blockbuster, usually by being in a market too small to support a Blockbuster, often outlived them (the one near me closed a few years ago finally)).

Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by omar_alt on Monday July 11, 2022 @12:38PM (#32058436)
I distinctively remember around 1994 two family run stores in the UK town I grew up in disappearing and the reason was the same, Blockbuster.

I didn’t play games much but I recall them also renting out Japanese nintendo games and also sold the necessary cartridge converters to play Starfox.

Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by ars on Monday July 11, 2022 @01:27PM (#32059021)
> the reason was the same, Blockbuster.

The "name" of the reason might be Blockbuster, but the actual reason was that Blockbuster had a larger selection. Those mom and pop stores were really small, so if you wanted something else you had to go to Blockbuster anyway, so why bother dealing with more than one store even for the stuff they had? Just get everything at Blockbuster.

It's the same with retail stores - I don't go to the small stores, even if they might have what I want - why should I? I can go to the larger store and get everything and not have to think about it.

Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by acheron on Monday July 11, 2022 @01:33PM (#32059089)
Yeah that's how I remember it too. In one town we lived in, we always got videos from the independent place. My main memory of Blockbuster is that one time my parents went there instead, and they gave us the wrong movie, which my sister and I were very disappointed by.

In another town we lived in, the video rental place was a local chain with fewer than 10 locations, maybe just around 5. I don't remember if a Blockbuster even existed locally.

Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by LegitShady on Monday July 11, 2022 @12:34PM (#32058388)
the wikipedia article for blockbuster contains a quote/source about this (search it for "mom and pop") but the citation no longer exists due to link rot.

essentially blockbuster operated at larger scales than many small video businesses and so had smaller unit costs while also having more selection.

Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by causi on Monday July 11, 2022 @01:34PM (#32059112)
I loved when Blockbuster came to town because it cut the price of rentals by two thirds. I was not a wealthy child and being able to rent a game every few weeks was way better than every couple of months.
Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by fundad on Monday July 11, 2022 @08:18PM (#32063976)
How is that ironic? Memories of the 90’s woupd be all about the demise of mom and pop shops and generally flattening the character of US cities and towns (see also Starbucks).

It’s more discomforting than ironic.

Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by WalterBright on Monday July 11, 2022 @01:52PM (#32059368)
The local video rental proprietor told me when she was closing up for good was that Netflix destroyed her business.
Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by mikeocool on Monday July 11, 2022 @02:07PM (#32059560)
Anecdotally, I recall a brief moment in the late 2000's where the mom and pop shops had a bit of resurgence (or at least a stay on their execution) -- when Netflix DVD's by mail had put most Block Busters out of business, but before every movie was readily available on streaming services.

If it was Friday night, and you'd just sent back your netflix disc -- or you were looking to watch something that wasn't at the top of your queue, the mom and pop video rental place was your only option. At least in NYC, it seemed like this kept those places going a little but longer than anyone would have guessed when Block Buster was still around.

Though once streaming became prevalent they all disappeared pretty quickly.

Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by rhino369 on Monday July 11, 2022 @02:33PM (#32059905)
NYC probably had more indie rental stores around just because of the population density. In my suburb, Blockbuster had already wiped them out in the 90's.
Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by Apocryphon on Monday July 11, 2022 @02:46PM (#32060072)
Feels like even without streaming or even Netflix’s original DVD-by-mail delivery service, Redbox could’ve eaten brick and mortar movie rental stores.
Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by exmadscientist on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @04:51AM (#32067222)
According to a coworker, Redbox/Outerwall had massive management issues, which probably explains why they had so much trouble. He insisted that the corporate culture got significantly better when private equity bought them out, which is a statement I don't recall ever having heard before.
Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by TedDoesntTalk on Monday July 11, 2022 @06:05PM (#32062634)
I don't recall Redbox existing, at least in my area, during that time.
Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by WalterBright on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @01:24AM (#32065977)
This was before Netflix streaming, when Netflix was just dvds.
Re:Plano man keeping Blockbuster alive by TedDoesntTalk on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @09:49AM (#32069899)
Yeah -- still don't remember Redbox then. I did use Netflix DVDs by mail, too.