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Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by severino on Sunday July 10, 2022 @04:09PM (#32048475)
Didn't know WWIII already started. If you meant stopping doing businesses with a country that invades another, I'm sorry to tell you that there are not enough "non-invading" countries that can sell all the resources that we in the EU need now.
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by shmerl on Sunday July 10, 2022 @04:12PM (#32048505)
Exactly my point. Trying to whitewash this with "need to do business" isn't helping your arguments. Some tried to use same ones for doing business with Nazis during WWII. They very much don't like when anyone reminds about it today.

Same will be for anyone who is doing business with Putin's fascists today.

Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by cersa8 on Sunday July 10, 2022 @04:28PM (#32048659)
I find it deeply concerning we are still very much in bed with Putin. We should have taken drastic steps early and maybe be half way in tapping alternative sources. The fact Germany is happily closing nuclear power plants shows Europe is in for a rude awakening when Putin tightens the vice.
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by AnonymousPlanet on Sunday July 10, 2022 @04:55PM (#32048935)
Have you done the numbers on how many nuclear power stations you need to replace all gas and oil heating in Germany? What would be your guess? 2 or 3? Or maybe it's more than France has at the moment. Just a thought...
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by severino on Sunday July 10, 2022 @04:59PM (#32048971)
And who do we buy oil/gas from? Venezuela? Iran? Saudi Arabia? United States? I don't see a reason why those countries are better than Russia.
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by marvinvz on Sunday July 10, 2022 @05:33PM (#32049297)
Because none of those plan on taking over europe. Russia still has the goal to directly control all slavic countries and indirectly control the rest of Europe. Most europeans remember the USSR.
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by konschubert on Sunday July 10, 2022 @07:08PM (#32050145)
None of these countries are actively trying to erase another country from the map right now.

The US is a democratic country so far, Russia is not.

It’s incredibly childish, stupid and dangerous to pretend that these countries are all equally evil.

Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by severino on Monday July 11, 2022 @02:15AM (#32052797)
Does being a democracy make the US a better country than the others? If it's the voters, and not a guy, who decides to invade and take over your country, then is it OK?

And while none of those countries may be involved in a military conflict right now, they've been in the past. Recently.

So given there is no good country selling gas right now, I prefer to get the cheapest one. Thanks.

Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by konschubert on Monday July 11, 2022 @03:17AM (#32053222)
"Given that there is no perfect food, they are all the same to me. And thus I prefer to eat dirt, since it's the cheapest."
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by chasd00 on Sunday July 10, 2022 @05:25PM (#32049210)
Unfortunately it doesn’t even matter. The infrastructure simply doesn’t exist and takes many months to build. Germany could choose to buy from anywhere but it doesn’t matter, there’s no way to get the gas to where it’s needed in time for winter.
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by heavenlyblue on Sunday July 10, 2022 @06:52PM (#32049999)
Well unfortunately Germany doesn’t have a leader strong enough to announce a military regime and ration the heating in the country.
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by worik on Sunday July 10, 2022 @04:22PM (#32048617)
How many invading your neighbours?
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by severino on Sunday July 10, 2022 @04:52PM (#32048906)
Well, I disapprove the raping and killing of entire families no matter if they're my neighbors or they live a couple of countries away. Don't you?
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by konschubert on Sunday July 10, 2022 @06:33PM (#32049839)
There is only one country who’s trying to erase another from the map of Europe right now, and it’s Russia.

It’s important to understand that Russia is a much bigger threat to European safety than the Saudis.

When it comes to defending central european borders, your whataboutism isn’t helpful.

You may call this cynical. But I think that this whataboutism that leads to inaction is the most cynical of all.

Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by konschubert on Sunday July 10, 2022 @04:37PM (#32048740)
Are you serious.
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by konschubert on Sunday July 10, 2022 @07:06PM (#32050123)
This is factually wrong.