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Re:As TikTok grows, so does suspicion by yorwba on Sunday July 10, 2022 @01:48PM (#32046982)
TikTok is technically not a Chinese company, so it wouldn't be affected by such a law. But I haven't read the law and don't know how accurate your summary of it is. Do you have a link?
Re:As TikTok grows, so does suspicion by vineyardmike on Sunday July 10, 2022 @09:20PM (#32051139)
When I interviewed for a job at TikTok (SV office) the interviewer worked at byte dance and was in China.

Absolutely zero separation between Chinese and American business regardless of what they claim.

Re:As TikTok grows, so does suspicion by dqpb on Sunday July 10, 2022 @01:54PM (#32047037)
> TikTok is technically not a Chinese company

I guess the economist has it wrong then:

> As the first consumer-facing app from China to take off in the West, TikTok is a source of pride in Beijing. But the app’s Chinese ownership makes politicians elsewhere uneasy about its tightening grip on their citizens’ attention

Re:As TikTok grows, so does suspicion by stale2002 on Sunday July 10, 2022 @02:10PM (#32047238)
The point being here is that the company ownership is setup in a complicate way, that is different than just being straight up controlled by china.

As in, there are apparently sub companies, that are in the US, not in china, that makes it different.

Re:As TikTok grows, so does suspicion by stjohnswarts on Sunday July 10, 2022 @04:40PM (#32048773)
If you are a major company in China you are controlled by the CCP. They may leave the day to day business to execs but they are 100% at CCP beck and call. Look at what happened to Jack when you go too far off script. CCP has full access to US Servers (yeah I know that TikTok "US" says all data is kept here.
Re:As TikTok grows, so does suspicion by shbooms on Sunday July 10, 2022 @03:41PM (#32048193)
> As in, there are apparently sub companies, that are in the US, not in china,

Sure, the US "sub companies" are located physically in the US and managed day-to-day by US-based employees but they are still owned by a Chinese parent company meaning at the end of the day, they still report to managers/executive in China and are obligated to follow directions given to them by people working for Chinese parent company. If the Chinese government cotrols the Chinese parent company then they, by definition, control the US-based company as well.

Re:As TikTok grows, so does suspicion by vineyardmike on Sunday July 10, 2022 @09:21PM (#32051148)
Re:As TikTok grows, so does suspicion by dqpb on Sunday July 10, 2022 @02:43PM (#32047568)
They’re headquartered in Beijing.
Re:As TikTok grows, so does suspicion by ectopod on Sunday July 10, 2022 @01:59PM (#32047105)
Re:As TikTok grows, so does suspicion by yorwba on Monday July 11, 2022 @02:07AM (#32052762)
Not seeing anything about live access in there. Maybe you're referring to this?

> The written regulations that give the Ministry of Public Security the right to just “take it” are the Regulation on Internet Security Supervision and Inspection by Public Security Organs (公安机关互联网安全监督检查规定).

But the law in question http://www.gov.cn/gongbao/content/2018/content_5343745.htm doesn't actually grant public security organs the right to just "take it" as the blog post claims. Having the authority to request on-site network security audits or do penetration tests would certainly give spies ample opportunity to find ways to exfiltrate data, but that doesn't mean they're legally allowed to do so.

I guess not many people care whether Chinese intelligence agencies spy on TikTok users legally or extralegally, but I just wanted to know whether there really was such a law. Apparently not.