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Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by tptacek on Saturday July 09, 2022 @12:17AM (#32031604)
They can't want that, because it was a term Musk explicitly waived, publicly and notoriously, before he attempted to finance the deal. It was newsworthy, and well covered, that Musk secured the 13Bn of LBO debt in the first place.
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by gabereiser on Saturday July 09, 2022 @12:27AM (#32031668)
What the media says (including musk) and what the term sheet says are two different things. If he mentioned mDAU could be fraudulent to anyone involved, they would be interested to hear what he had to say about it. I believe though that this is a move to reduce the risk and monies he has to pay to try to get a better deal ($30b perhaps?)
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by papercrane on Saturday July 09, 2022 @12:47AM (#32031799)
> If he mentioned mDAU could be fraudulent to anyone involved

One problem for Musk is he's been casting doubt on the bot numbers publicly, even before the deal. One of he's stated reasons for the deal was to deal with spam bots. Twitter has also reported basically the same 5% number in it's filings for years. If it really was a sticking point for Musk he should've done his due diligence before committing to to buy Twitter.

Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by meatsauce on Saturday July 09, 2022 @03:27AM (#32032730)
Well twitter is a cesspool of bots, mostly international actors, so I don't see how material facts are a problem.
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by admax88qqq on Saturday July 09, 2022 @12:42AM (#32031772)
> they would be interested to hear what he had to say about it.

They can be interested all they want, doesn't mean they can back out of a deal unless they can demonstrate fraud or gross negligence on behalf of Twitter.

Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by suzzer99 on Saturday July 09, 2022 @02:34AM (#32032465)
So the financiers do back out, then what? Twitter sues them for the full amount, and both parties end up settling for X% of the full amount?
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by martin8412 on Saturday July 09, 2022 @03:12AM (#32032656)
X=100
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by tptacek on Saturday July 09, 2022 @12:55AM (#32031848)
They can't just demonstrate "fraud" or "gross negligence". They have to demonstrate a "material adverse effect", which, as Matt Levine shorthands it, is something on the order of a 40% drop in profitability --- not the stock price, but the fundamentals of the company. Not happening.
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by 1R on Saturday July 09, 2022 @02:17AM (#32032375)
What if 40% of the percentage of users that twitter proposes are real people are actually bots? Wouldn't that qualify as material adverse effect?
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by JumpCrisscross on Saturday July 09, 2022 @05:32AM (#32033389)
> Wouldn't that qualify as material adverse effect?

Probably not. There has been one MAC finding in the history of MACs. It was a trifecta of fraud, management throwing in the towel the moment the merger was agreed and a massive revenue drop.

Musk’s only hope is to get his banks to pull financing. That’s going to be tough.

Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by jakelazaroff on Saturday July 09, 2022 @08:53AM (#32034615)
Would that even work, though? It’s not like he can’t afford it; his money is just tied up in TSLA. Presumably the court can force him to liquidate his shares if his lenders somehow back out.
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by HWR_14 on Saturday July 09, 2022 @11:10AM (#32035760)
No, I the two conditions other than a materially adverse effect that lets Musk back out are if his debt financing falls through or if the government stops it.
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by hef19898 on Saturday July 09, 2022 @04:21AM (#32033064)
Propably not if those users can, and are, monetized.
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Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by tptacek on Saturday July 09, 2022 @01:57AM (#32032237)
All I know is, he's a former M&A lawyer, unlike any commenter here.
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by couchand on Saturday July 09, 2022 @01:52AM (#32032213)
20% is on the order of 40%
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by shkkmo on Saturday July 09, 2022 @02:42PM (#32038066)
"in/on the order of" does not mean "the same order of magnitude as" by rather "approximately the same as".

Nobody would call 20% approximately the same as 40% so you are incorrect.