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Re:The U.S. may be losing the fight against monkeypox, scien... by nostromo on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:44PM (#32027651)
Note how puritanical feelings about sex and sexual minorities come into play here.

> A grandma dies because her family ignores rules around not gathering during Covid-19 -- tragic.

> A young man dies because he has sex with too many partners -- well, he should have known about the risks.

Re:The U.S. may be losing the fight against monkeypox, scien... by throwaway070822 on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:08PM (#32028087)
It actually seems to be the opposite, from what I've seen. There's a Reddit sub with half a million subscribers, /r/HermanCainAward/, created to make fun of people who were cavalier about Covid and ended up dying from it. There's no sub for people who had tons of unprotected sex and got AIDS or monkeypox, and I'm pretty sure one would get banned immediately if it was created.
Re:The U.S. may be losing the fight against monkeypox, scien... by nostromo on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:20PM (#32028297)
Yeah, and that sucks. Those idiots on Reddit should stop.

That’s my point - it’s not effective there or here, for Covid or Monkeypox.

I doubt the people shaming people with illness even think doing so will help change behavior. They probably just enjoy dunking on people they think are beneath them.

Re:The U.S. may be losing the fight against monkeypox, scien... by corrral on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:00PM (#32027943)
I mean... "fuck around and find out" or similar was a pretty damn common response when people who chose to publicly ignore common-sense precautions died of Covid.
Re:The U.S. may be losing the fight against monkeypox, scien... by wonderwonder on Friday July 08, 2022 @10:55PM (#32031075)
Come on there is a pretty clear difference between getting sick because you just existed along side other people and breathed the same air vs repeatedly inserting your penis inside multiple other people in a single night knowing the risks. There are tons of happy monogamous homosexual couples who are not at risk. If you cant see that you are very much willfully blind. Puritanical feelings have nothing to do with it. No none deserves to die from any virus but the assumption of risk implied is very different. It doesn't make any death less tragic than another though.
Re:The U.S. may be losing the fight against monkeypox, scien... by chitowneats on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:47PM (#32027712)
Insinuations of homophobia are not helping your case. We're talking about having anonymous group sex vs. breathing air. I would feel the same way and see the same glaring distinction if we were talking about a heterosexual orgy.
Re:The U.S. may be losing the fight against monkeypox, scien... by ddeeo on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:13PM (#32028163)
Well shit, he shouldn't have sex as much maybe? It's a very avoidable behavior.

I in general do not understand why these dudes do these insane sexual things. I always knew there were people out there who made sex a big part of their lifestyle, but group sex with double digit partners in the last month?

Holy shit not only is that incredibly bizarre to most people, but it's unreasonable to suggest it can't be avoided. Is there just no monogamy in the gay male community?

Re:The U.S. may be losing the fight against monkeypox, scien... by daenz on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:25PM (#32028369)
There seems to be a mindset among a large number of people that if a person's behaviors fall into certain socially "protected" categories, that they should be able to do whatever they want, with no consequences, or if there are consequences, they should be compensated for by the rest of society.
Re:The U.S. may be losing the fight against monkeypox, scien... by karencarits on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:24PM (#32028366)
> Is there just no monogamy in the gay male community?

Of course there is. There are also, for example, gay men who obstain from sex altogether for religious reasons. These group just doesn't get as much attention.

But the distributions are a bit different and the tail of the distribution is longer. See for example https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3334840/

    Number of partners, last year [median, range]:
    * Heterosexual men: 1 (0–99)
    * Heterosexual women: 1 (0–7)
    * MSM (Urban Men’s Health Study): 4 (0–500)
    * MSM (Seattle MSM RDD): 2 (0–300)
    
    Number of partners, lifetime [median, range]:
    * Heterosexual men: 8 (1–99)
    * Heterosexual women: 6 (1–99)
    * MSM (Urban Men’s Health Study): 45 (0–9005)
Re:The U.S. may be losing the fight against monkeypox, scien... by causality0 on Saturday July 09, 2022 @01:04PM (#32037085)
According to data from Okcupid, gay and straight people have about the same median number of partners. It's a small fraction of the gay community that is having just a ridiculous amount of sex.
Re:The U.S. may be losing the fight against monkeypox, scien... by daenz on Saturday July 09, 2022 @01:34PM (#32037406)
There may be a sampling bias from okcupid, for both demographics, since iirc okcupid is more about dating than it is hookups.
Re:The U.S. may be losing the fight against monkeypox, scien... by daenz on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:47PM (#32027718)
I'm not sure how that is related to my comment unless you are suggesting that I also hold those beliefs.