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Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by dang on Friday July 08, 2022 @01:17AM (#32023552)
Nationalistic flamewar will get you banned here. Please don't post like this to HN again.

More at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32023521.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by mattwest on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:48PM (#32022874)
Japanese police don't have a great reputation for pursuing leads, but it is most definitely one of the safest countries in the world.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by kafkaesque on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:54PM (#32022913)
"Safest countries in the world" is casting a pretty wide net. Yes, there are hundreds of countries worse. What is your point? Remove those worst countries and the US and it is pretty average compared to richer countries in the world.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by mattwest on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:00AM (#32022957)
My goodness, what is your point? Japan is unequivocally one of the safest countries in the world. This is a well-known fact and you can look it up yourself if you need a source. Top 10, there ya go. I mean, really, what an odd opinion to stand beside.
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Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by caterpi11ar on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:19AM (#32023103)
i think what most people mean by 'safety' is 'low incidence of murder, assault, robbery, kidnap, rape' but you seem to mean 'low incidence of getting feelings hurt'. this might be why you and others seem to be talking past each other.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by bigDinosaur on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:40AM (#32023264)
One of the very few countries where women I've known have felt completely safe walking home alone at 2am. Yes, to a certain extent they are underestimating the real risks which are definitely non-zero, but it's definitely fairly unique from a violent crime in the streets perspective.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by lolive on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:26AM (#32023149)
Japan is safe. But Japan TV IS NOT safe.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by pjscott on Friday July 08, 2022 @01:15AM (#32023539)
The US shouldn't be thought of as a homogenous place. There are parts of the US -- most of it, geographically, as far as I can tell -- which are basically indistinguishable from their Japanese counterparts in crime rates and levels of social trust. Almost every good thing you can say about a Japanese town is true of a (smaller) American town, and vice versa. I've lived in nice places in America where crime was shocking and essentially not heard of; I've also lived in places where some lunatic with a screwdriver threatened to stab random passers-by six times before breakfast, and the police just sighed and took Philip McStabbins to jail overnight for the 262nd time because the DA wouldn't prosecute.

And that's the thing, isn't it? America is mostly super-low crime, but for some reason we have a dysfunctional criminal underclass that just won't go away. Japan seems weird to us because theirs is smaller than ours (and often held in check by Yakuza higher-ups with calmer heads.) Why do US cities have so many neighborhoods where you Do Not Go, while almost all of the US has no neighborhoods where you feel even vaguely unsafe?

Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by azinman2 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:59PM (#32022948)
So remove hundreds of countries, and then you’ve got what left?
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by kafkaesque on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:06AM (#32023005)
You are comparing the worst countries with a rich, average country to make said country look like the safest, which is deceiving.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by azinman2 on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:16PM (#32027230)
Pick any list related to crime world wide, and Japan is in top 10 or far better. It is one of the safest in the world no matter how you slice it. Why is that such a controversial statement? It’s like you’re moving the goal post, and Japan still gets the goal.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by tjpnz on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:41PM (#32022821)
Japan's justice system has it's flaws just like everywhere else, but they absolutely don't sweep crime under the rug.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by 3np on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:50PM (#32022890)
The justice system may not but various other authorities certainly do.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by kafkaesque on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:51PM (#32022895)
You should talk to Zainichi Koreans that live there more. This may be a difficult point to take in a community that views most things based on numbers and data.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by tjpnz on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:56PM (#32022929)
I've never interacted with a Zainichi Korean but as a foreigner who's reported a crime I can assure you that it was dealt with.
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Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by tjpnz on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:07AM (#32023018)
>Please stop posting if you have never interacted with the biggest minority in Japan.

Then perhaps you should amend your original statement about "most" crimes being swept under the rug.

Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by kafkaesque on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:23AM (#32023123)
How do you reconcile intersectionality and systemic racism with low crime rates in Japan?
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by anonymoushn on Friday July 08, 2022 @01:12AM (#32023516)
Having strangers yell at you is the sort of thing that happens to anyone who goes outside in San Francisco.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by anewpersonality on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:52AM (#32023362)
It's disgusting you were flagged by the hive mind, but I for one would like to find out more about why Japan is hiding crime.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by iratewizard on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:59PM (#32022944)
There are regular efforts to discredit Japan, and I think it has to do with them being the model for "done differently and to better success". Better birth rates, very very few cesarians. Far fewer health mandates, better health outcomes. Cash-based economy, fully functioning without being subject to mass surveillance. Even better litter outcomes despite no public trash cans.

They're testament to the successes of a homogenous society at the very least.

Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by 2143 on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:24AM (#32023130)
Don't Asians tend to live longer and have better health in general?

I don't know if it's due to something genetic, or because of something Japanese people do after they're born.

FWIW, Asian Americans in USA also tend to live longer than other ethic groups.

Now that I think about it, I realise USA might be a good natural setting to study these kinds of differences because there's a lot of people from a lot of places over there, unlike other countries where the population is more homogenous. Or maybe I'm wrong (I'm not from USA, but when I visited there I was astonished by the number of people from all over the world who were there).

Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by totetsu on Friday July 08, 2022 @01:06AM (#32023462)
Apart from the extremes of heteromorphic differences that can occur between different populations of humans, and the small chance that a very small woman might give birth to a very large baby.. What does any of that have concretely to do with society being Homogenous? What evidence do you have that Japan is actually Homogenous? How do you define that.. There is great diversity in Japan...
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by iratewizard on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:57PM (#32028843)
I wish 97.8% monoculture was considered diversity. My conglomerate can't get any cash from blackrock unless we're at least 65% diverse and make our advertisements about ESG instead of the product we're selling.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by chrisjharris on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:15AM (#32023069)
I thought the birth rate was very low? Did I get that wrong?
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by iratewizard on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:32AM (#32023195)
Birth rates isn't the right word. Neonatal mortality
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by cyberlurker on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:35AM (#32023226)
No, you’re right. Im assuming they mean child mortality.