Re:Tesla employee of nearly 5 years was sacked over the phon...
by hansword on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:58PM
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> Musk should immediately take steps to demonstrate that he can build and support ethical community frameworks
That might be good advice, but is hinging on one massive prerequisite: I am not sure he actually can.
Re:Tesla employee of nearly 5 years was sacked over the phon...
by petee on Thursday July 07, 2022 @08:04PM
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Hes an asshat, and proud of it -- even if he could creat an 'ethical' community, he wouldn't want to.
Re:Tesla employee of nearly 5 years was sacked over the phon...
by hattmall on Thursday July 07, 2022 @09:31PM
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Yeah I'm sure the richest people in the world that still spend ridiculous amounts of their time trying to get EVEN MORE wealthy are going to stop everything and focus on ethics.
Re:Tesla employee of nearly 5 years was sacked over the phon...
by cptskippy on Friday July 08, 2022 @08:05PM
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> Musk demonstrates that he sees humans as fundamentally lacking and suspect, _especially_ insofar as they represent themselves as serving his aims.
Musk sees himself in others.
Re:Tesla employee of nearly 5 years was sacked over the phon...
by hulitu on Friday July 08, 2022 @03:30AM
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> Upside of working for Tesla: Build cool machines.
Only if your definition of "cool machines" is a touch screen.
Re:Tesla employee of nearly 5 years was sacked over the phon...
by aliswe on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:09PM
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I am nitpicking - I think the touchscreen is built by someone else.
Re:Tesla employee of nearly 5 years was sacked over the phon...
by mc32 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @09:49PM
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Musk has his flaws, but he's not hiding them like a Bezos, a Gates or you know all the de mortuis nil nisi bonums.
Bezos, I think, is less ethical than Musk. He gets some flak but it's less visceral than what Musk gets. Maybe it's because Musk is more of an iconic figure than Bezos who's seen as a grubby business guy.
Re:Tesla employee of nearly 5 years was sacked over the phon...
by unixhero on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:46PM
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Building electric cars is the definition of ethical behaviour.
Re:Tesla employee of nearly 5 years was sacked over the phon...
by breadloaf on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:51PM
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Nothing more ethic than using batteries for which raw materials were dug out by children.
https://www.mining.com/tesla-apple-google-microsoft-dodge-co...
Downside of working for Tesla: Be treated like an obsolete machine which must be deeply manipulated in order to work like the needed object. Musk demonstrates that he sees humans as fundamentally lacking and suspect, _especially_ insofar as they represent themselves as serving his aims.
Musk is also continually caught demonstrating that he respects renegade iconoclasts and their opinions more than the rational needs of his own hardworking employees.
This is a really dangerous dichotomy for his businesses right now, since the world is rapidly changing its opinion on manipulators, and tech is a really convenient place to start with that, since it is mechanistic by default and must build on a foundation of broad ethical agreement. Once the ethical agreement fades and the group is mistreated, that foundation is gone.
IMO Musk should immediately take steps to demonstrate that he can build and support ethical community frameworks. They should be directly informed by those who help him make all of his systematizing dreams come true. (If this sounds boring or silly to him, he should find his place of best fit in the overall system of business development, probably focusing on continually starting projects from the ground up with simpatico groups.)
The rest of his ethics focus (support for individual values, freedoms, & positions) is way too personal and will continue allowing group-ethics blind spots to go neglected. It's long-term drawing way too much goodwill from his employees, their families, drivers of his cars, the investors, etc.