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Re:I analyzed hospital price lists so you didn't have to by throw123123123 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @01:13AM (#32010153)
It's not the same regulation.
Re:I analyzed hospital price lists so you didn't have to by twicetwice on Thursday July 07, 2022 @01:33AM (#32010271)
Yeah. A lot of flamewars have happened: "regulation bad!" vs "no, regulation good!".

But in reality, good regulation is good, and bad regulation is bad.

It sounds silly written out because it's a tautology, but if more people internalized it we could have much more productive conversations. Instead of going back and forth on whether regulation is good or bad, we should try to figure out which regulations are good and which are bad, and then try to get rid of the bad ones and pass more of the good ones.

Re:I analyzed hospital price lists so you didn't have to by creakingstairs on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:01AM (#32012437)
I’d argue that the underlying system that makes the regulation in US is broken. So you aren’t going to end up with many good regulations without changing the system. Which looks nigh impossible until some black swan event.
Re:I analyzed hospital price lists so you didn't have to by throwaway0a5e on Thursday July 07, 2022 @09:37AM (#32013908)
>But in reality, good regulation is good, and bad regulation is bad.

No one brick in the road to hell is bad. But you can definitely pave a road to hell with the accumulation of "positive" changes. People tend to define positive over too short a timeline or too narrowly.

Re:I analyzed hospital price lists so you didn't have to by ClumsyPilot on Thursday July 07, 2022 @03:25PM (#32018217)
No one square meter of nature is bad. But you can definitely doom people to horribly die because there is a natural swamp between them and the hospital. People tend to define 'natural' too narrowly, forgetting that 'things that are natural' includes cocaine, tapeworms, rape, birth defects, the Plague and cancer
Re:I analyzed hospital price lists so you didn't have to by throwaway0a5e on Thursday July 07, 2022 @03:40PM (#32018389)
Are you implying that individual regulations all have some inherent goodness on their own?

They're just rules we make for ourselves. There's nothing special about them. Opinions like that are why we can't fix messes like this.

Re:I analyzed hospital price lists so you didn't have to by nopenopenopeno on Thursday July 07, 2022 @03:45AM (#32011022)
It sounds silly because it is silly. Interested parties prioritize various policies with varying degrees of priority.
Re:I analyzed hospital price lists so you didn't have to by GoOnThenDoTell on Thursday July 07, 2022 @01:44AM (#32010330)
Effective regulation is somewhat of an organisational skill.

Perhaps its just low pay attracting low talent

Re:I analyzed hospital price lists so you didn't have to by loonster on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:08AM (#32012492)
No. It's the high profit attracting high incentive to capture the regulation.

The goal of the regulation is to increase prices (profit) while preventing other parties from competing on prices

Re:I analyzed hospital price lists so you didn't have to by ClumsyPilot on Thursday July 07, 2022 @03:42PM (#32018402)
I am always amazed by these "no-regulation" arguers - how are you doing to resolve disputes?

Suppose I want to sell my product, and find a company willing to buy, a middle manager signs the contract. When the company recieved my product, it refuses to pay, says this person was not authorised to sign the contract on behalf of the company.

Must the company prove the purchase was unauthorised, or must I prove the employee was authorised? Suppose employee was unauthorised, is it my or the company's problem if this guy 'took initiative', who eats the loss?

What if they already used my product and only realised after the bill came due? What if the deal was overpriced like 10x from market average? What if the guy's title says 'Head of procurement' but the company swears their bylaws don't allow him to authorise purchases?

Re:I analyzed hospital price lists so you didn't have to by robertlagrant on Friday July 08, 2022 @04:24AM (#32024336)
They weren't talking about the concept of regulation. Just the reality of the US's ones.

And I think you're talking about contract law, not regulations.