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Re:FBI Child ID App by Tade0 on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @10:02AM (#32001050)
Fingerprints aren't even particularly useful here.

Our irises are considerably more information-dense, accessible and stable over time as evidenced by the famous identification of Sharbat Gula: https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~jgd1000/afghan.html

A close-up photo should be enough to reliably identify a person years after they went missing.

Re:FBI Child ID App by shapefrog on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @10:19AM (#32001371)
> Our irises are considerably more information-dense

Someone should give you free cryptocurrency for a scan of your iris.

Re:FBI Child ID App by hugodutka on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @10:26AM (#32001489)
Re:FBI Child ID App by kelseyfrog on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @11:51AM (#32002740)
As someone who wants to enter and profit from the burgeoning underground iris transplantation economy, where do I start? I get the sense that there is an arbitrage opportunity between the cost of eye surgery and crypto returns but exactly how do I capitalize on this?
Re:FBI Child ID App by JadoJodo on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @10:57AM (#32001948)
I suspect GP was being facetious.
Re:FBI Child ID App by klyrs on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @11:47AM (#32002687)
Poe's law strikes again. Any joke about crypto scams has already been implemented for real...
Re:FBI Child ID App by sblom on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:20PM (#32003160)
(That was the joke.)
Re:FBI Child ID App by Dylan16807 on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:47PM (#32003529)
Still worth linking because that is quite an obscure reference.
Re:FBI Child ID App by thrr0wawayy on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @03:06PM (#32005360)
Everest uses biometrics to tie your information to your wallet. The tech is actually pretty cool in my opinion - they have the Everest ID coin itself, but I am more interested in the identity management part of it.

I'm not sure I'm 100% on board, but the tech is really interesting and their approach to privacy seems much better than I would expect from an offering like that. The aim is to be able to offer Know Your Customer using their identity platform to a mulititude of services.

Everest.org is their site

Re:FBI Child ID App by SapporoChris on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @11:08AM (#32002113)
While most people do have stable iris patterns it is not the case for everyone. Numerous conditions can cause changes in the eyes. Glaucoma being the most obvious one, but there are a whole host of other conditions like lisch nodules, Uveal melanoma, etc.

However, perhaps with training, identification could be made in spite of changes to the iris.

Re:FBI Child ID App by Tade0 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:55AM (#32011894)
The algorithms used are pretty robust - your typical iris scan won't be done with a fully opened eye and there's also the question of eyelashes. Some examples:

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-outline-boundaries-s...

Re:FBI Child ID App by SapporoChris on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @12:53PM (#32072674)
Interesting link, thank you. Sorry for the late reply. The idea of wearing camouflaged contact lenses, and the work to defeat the attempt is interesting.
Re:FBI Child ID App by lwswl on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @03:44PM (#32005847)
Interesting
Re:FBI Child ID App by lwswl on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @03:39PM (#32005788)
But your irises don't tend to leave traces everywhere, and are thus only valuable for telling who you are, not where you've been.

Although that depends on the number of cameras around, access to them, and how much they are recording. Fingerprints are a lot simpler and easier to access.

Re:FBI Child ID App by Silica6149 on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @10:22AM (#32001423)
Did not know that! How easily can irises be identified in person, though? Has a handheld scanner been developed yet?

Fingerprints can also be left on objects, which can be helpful for tracking someone.

Re:FBI Child ID App by Tade0 on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @11:10AM (#32002142)
> Has a handheld scanner been developed yet?

Yes - I used one as far back as in 2010 on a science fair where we enrolled people to a research database.

A phone camera close-up should be enough in the right conditions, but additionally Samsung's Galaxy line used to include and iris scanner, which was just a near-infrared LED and a camera.

Re:FBI Child ID App by x86_64Ubuntu on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @03:02PM (#32005330)
Yes, they were using them to catalog folks in Afghanistan

https://www.wired.com/2010/09/afghan-biometric-dragnet-could...

Of course, the Taliban were able to seize this collection of data.

https://theintercept.com/2021/08/17/afghanistan-taliban-mili...

Re:FBI Child ID App by NullPrefix on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @10:57AM (#32001949)
Regular photo camera can take photos of irises