Re:Sajid Javid and Rishi Sunak Resign from UK Government
by LatteLazy on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @05:52PM
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So, as I understand it, the conservative party cannot have another no confidence vote for 11 more months since Boris won one last month.
So the only way to remove him of he won't quit is a House of Commons vote of no confidence.
But that, by convention, means a general election.
And a lot of the conservatives that would have to vote for it would almost certainly lose their seats since they only won them narrowly and the polls show they're down.
So unless MPs put aside their own interests and act in the national and democratic good, we'll likely be stuck with Boris?
Re:Sajid Javid and Rishi Sunak Resign from UK Government
by netsharc on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @06:07PM
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The committee that can call the no-confidence vote can also change the rules as they like, so they can remove the "you have the confidence for 1 year" rule. And according to the Guardian many of Boris' enemies will be elected into this committee.
Re:Sajid Javid and Rishi Sunak Resign from UK Government
by dane-pgp on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @06:37PM
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> But that, by convention, means a general election.
Actually there are two types of VoNC that are relevant here. Parliament could express their lack of confidence in Boris Johnson himself, rather than the entire government. The constitutional expectation, if such a motion passed, would be that the Conservatives put forward a leader to take his place.
Expressing no confidence in the entire government is the more extreme (but more common) course of action. The recent precedent is Jeremy Corbyn requesting (but being denied) the opportunity for the HoC to carry out a VoNC targeting Theresa May in 2018, although it required time in the Commons which the government refused to grant him.
The BBC said[0] at the time:
> Unlike a vote targeting the PM, a motion of no confidence in the government could bring about an early general election if it is supported by a majority of MPs.
and it was later, in 2019, that such a VoNC in the government itself went ahead.[1] Theresa May won that motion by 325 votes to 306.
Re:Sajid Javid and Rishi Sunak Resign from UK Government
by meepmorp on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @04:13PM
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Still plenty of rats left - Dorries, Patel, Gove, Rees-Mogg, Truss are all apparently staying put.
And BoJo is not going without being physically tossed out the door of number 10. No amount of crumbling government or scandal will shame him, he’s obviously unable to have that emotion.
Let's bring back hanging to win some support back
So the only way to remove him of he won't quit is a House of Commons vote of no confidence.
But that, by convention, means a general election.
And a lot of the conservatives that would have to vote for it would almost certainly lose their seats since they only won them narrowly and the polls show they're down.
So unless MPs put aside their own interests and act in the national and democratic good, we'll likely be stuck with Boris?
Actually there are two types of VoNC that are relevant here. Parliament could express their lack of confidence in Boris Johnson himself, rather than the entire government. The constitutional expectation, if such a motion passed, would be that the Conservatives put forward a leader to take his place.
Expressing no confidence in the entire government is the more extreme (but more common) course of action. The recent precedent is Jeremy Corbyn requesting (but being denied) the opportunity for the HoC to carry out a VoNC targeting Theresa May in 2018, although it required time in the Commons which the government refused to grant him.
The BBC said[0] at the time:
> Unlike a vote targeting the PM, a motion of no confidence in the government could bring about an early general election if it is supported by a majority of MPs.
and it was later, in 2019, that such a VoNC in the government itself went ahead.[1] Theresa May won that motion by 325 votes to 306.
[0] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46599895
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_vote_of_confidence_in_the...
And BoJo is not going without being physically tossed out the door of number 10. No amount of crumbling government or scandal will shame him, he’s obviously unable to have that emotion.