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Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux by smoldesu on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @11:13AM (#31989192)
If Microsoft hated Linux as much as they did in the 90s, we'd know. It's cute to pretend like Modern Day MS is drafting up Halloween documents every-other-Friday, but the reality is that they don't really care that much anymore. Microsoft congratulated Valve for their progress on DXVK, a program that undermines one of Microsoft's most proprietary APIs. Microsoft expanded the capabilities of the Github free tier, even though they had no real incentive to add things like free CI/CD time or unlimited private repositories. Github as a privately-owned company monetized those features.

I think anyone who's paid attention to Microsoft over the past 20 years could tell you that they're out of the game these days. Hell, if you still don't believe me, go look at their revenue share. Windows, Xbox, Office... all of that plays second-fiddle to Azure now. Without Linux, Microsoft couldn't deliver the same first-rate cloud experience as AWS. Without Linux, WSL doesn't exist on Windows. Microsoft has realized that their role in this play is to sell thick-clients and let servers do what servers do best, there's pretty much nothing I've seen in the past 10 years that would suggest ongoing hostility towards Linux users from Microsoft. Maybe that dotnet hotloading fiasco was the worst thing? As someone who wouldn't touch dotnet anyways, I don't really care how good it's Linux tooling is.

Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux by bayindirh on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @12:09PM (#31990031)
Microsoft is hating Linux desktop more than ever today. They've just changed tactics. They may congratulate Valve for DXVK, send a cake to Firefox for a new anniversary, but it doesn't change that they pay Canonical to make their distro work flawlessly under WSL, so they can axe new installations of Linux desktop systems by enabling Linux under Windows. Similarly, they try to make sure that VSCode is the most loved IDE/Text editor so they can axe other free and paid development environments both under Windows and Linux.

Microsoft is trying to kill Linux desktop and lock it to server rooms, because the server side is a lost cause, but the desktop side is not. They just want Windows based games to work on other systems, so they can market Windows as compatible with that "other" games, and enable Linux under Windows so they can say "Hey, you don't need to install that, it works under Windows, too". Even more so, they can completely lock PC platform starting Win11 and onward and tell antitrust regulators that all the software already works under Windows, anyway.

They wanted to inject Mono/C# into GNOME and Linux so they can make the whole desktop dependent on themselves, but that backfired spectacularly. So this is their new tactic.

Microsoft has a DNA, and this DNA is in action with full force. They didn't change, and they won't change, ever.

Oh, maybe they can extort some money by suing DXVK in the future, who knows.

We're seeing all EEE cycle, again.

Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux by lofaszvanitt on Monday July 11, 2022 @07:42AM (#32054790)
Valve (GabeN) is a potential side rib of MS.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux by lloydatkinson on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @11:30AM (#31989389)
This is exactly what I meant thank you for elaborating. It’s a shame that typical “2002 Internet forum that types M$” is alive and well on HN but I guess it’s the same target audience.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux by bayindirh on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @12:12PM (#31990085)
Actually seeing Microsoft doing the same thing since 1990 doesn't inspire confidence in any of the actions they're doing. They need to try harder. Putting up logos and cute banners don't count.

Also, if you had the same point of view, you could have written the same thing.

BTW, I was already using Linux by 2002. I have pretty much first hand experience of what Microsoft did until today.

Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux by ziml77 on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @11:58AM (#31989851)
They've all grown up now though and express their hate in more than just two characters. The new expression of their hate for Microsoft is "this is the 2nd E of EEE".