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Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by jokethrowaway on Saturday July 02, 2022 @04:56PM (#31962316)
2-3x local market is doable even outside of fangs, usually with more flexibility (remote was a nice perk pre-pandemic) and no bullshit interview.

If you pair it with working via your own limited company and get your taxes down to single digits or low double digits you can make as much as salaried people on 300k - and with no equity that can go up or down (sure, and no holidays or sick days if you're the kind of person that does those).

Yet, even when you hit 200+k in EU, you're still left thinking you could be making 600k in SV.

Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by FrenchDevRemote on Saturday July 02, 2022 @05:53PM (#31962806)
>(sure, and no holidays or sick days if you're the kind of person that does those).

the kind of person that does those? you mean humans?

Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by kortilla on Saturday July 02, 2022 @08:23PM (#31963818)
Usage of sick days seems to follow a bimodal pattern. There are people that use them up like vacation days for all kinds of reasons and people who very rarely use them (<1 day a year on avg).

This was true through my entire career and even back in high school. I think usage of sick days is likely to follow a learned behavior from parents/siblings growing up.

Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by stkdump on Sunday July 03, 2022 @12:20AM (#31965031)
So what if you are sick? You are using your normal vacation days?
Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by ido on Sunday July 03, 2022 @01:14AM (#31965267)
It’s more about the definition of “sick”. I’ve seen people take a week off because they had a bit of a throat/head ache. And others that worked from home when they had a flu.
Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by Aeolun on Sunday July 03, 2022 @08:37AM (#31967236)
Except for the first few days when your fever is through the roof, I think that’s reasonable?

I dunno, my mom taught me that if I’m only really sick if I spend the day in bed (in preference to anything else I could be doing).

I think it’s a fair definition.

Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by atq2119 on Sunday July 03, 2022 @03:12AM (#31965744)
Honestly? I stay home and might check email when I'm bored but don't do any real work, but I don't usually file sick days either because the bureaucracy is a pain (seriously, I'm already sick, I can't deal with that added stress and I'm not going to the doctor just to spread my viruses and be told to go back home and rest). And as long as we're talking about 2 or 3 days, nobody really seems to care.
Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by stkdump on Sunday July 03, 2022 @03:56AM (#31965945)
So you are on sick leave without letting your boss know. I guess that works, but it puts the 'bimodal' comment in a different light.
Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by Aeolun on Sunday July 03, 2022 @08:38AM (#31967239)
Eh, if your boss doesn’t notice that you’re gone for a few days that’s probably on the boss.
Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by atq2119 on Monday July 04, 2022 @04:28AM (#31974799)
I've always had managers who care more about what I deliver than when and where my butt is in a chair. Maybe I'm lucky, maybe I'm good enough that it works out that way.
Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by Aeolun on Monday July 04, 2022 @11:18PM (#31983947)
No, I mean, that’s perfectly acceptable. If your boss cares only that you deliver, and doesn’t notice/care that you are gone for a few days due to sickness, that’s still not on you.
Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by tasuki on Monday July 04, 2022 @11:55AM (#31978467)
Have you considered just informally notifying them that you're out because sick? I mean, not doing that is fine too if you can deliver, but informing them might build more trust.
Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by kortilla on Sunday July 03, 2022 @01:12AM (#31965257)
I don’t get sick that frequently? I’ve had a cold like once in the last decade.
Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by stkdump on Sunday July 03, 2022 @01:28AM (#31965340)
I envy you.
Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by dubswithus on Saturday July 02, 2022 @06:26PM (#31962994)
You mean consulting?
Re:The trimodal nature of software salaries in the Netherlan... by granshaw on Saturday July 02, 2022 @08:49PM (#31963984)
Yes