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Re:Tech layoffs keep stacking up by spaceman_2020 on Friday July 01, 2022 @10:46AM (#31947113)
Not to be a luddite, but a ton of tech ventures now straddle the edge of value addition to society. Value might be subjective, but its hard to see how a NFT marketplace is as valuable to society as, say, a tractor factory or steel plant.
Re:Tech layoffs keep stacking up by wpietri on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:50PM (#31949216)
For sure. The unicorn era is characterized by an oversupply of venture capital that gets spent well in advance of proportionate proof of utility. E.g., Theranos and WeWork. Or pretty much the whole [1] of the metastasizing crytpowhatever space. Layoffs in nonproductive companies are good, IMHO. And the sooner the better, as the longer someone spends in a bubble, the harder it is for them to adapt when the bubble pops.

[1] Not your personal favorite, of course. That one's the pony in there somewhere. https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/12/13/pony-somewhere/

Re:Tech layoffs keep stacking up by supernovae on Friday July 01, 2022 @04:00PM (#31951991)
Netflix isn't an NFT and just because they have competition now doesn't devalue them as first mover with millions of subs.
Re:Tech layoffs keep stacking up by themitigating on Friday July 01, 2022 @10:57AM (#31947262)
I find those to be exceptions to most companies in our economy. Construction of housing, food, medicine, water, army/police are your base levels.

An NFT marketplace is a similar to gambling or derivatives. The value is potential income for people.

Re:Tech layoffs keep stacking up by mellavora on Friday July 01, 2022 @11:06AM (#31947391)
"value" is an ambiguous word. I think you understand it as "something people are willing to put money into", which certainly covers gambling.

Another definition of "value" is something which increased the economic output, a positive-sum game. Thus gambling (which is zero-sum) does not create value.

Derivatives do create value in the second sense, in that they can be used to protect against risk, thus creating value (or allowing the creation of value). Yes, they can also be used for the equivalent of gambling, but they have additional uses.

Re:Tech layoffs keep stacking up by andsoitis on Friday July 01, 2022 @03:49PM (#31951807)
> An NFT marketplace is a similar to gambling or derivatives.

Derivatives have real utility.

Re:Tech layoffs keep stacking up by wpietri on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:52PM (#31949243)
Just to be clear, gambling is a net societal negative. For every dollar that goes in, less than a dollar in income comes out. It's going to happen, but let's not pretend that it's value-creating.
Re:Tech layoffs keep stacking up by esotericimpl on Friday July 01, 2022 @11:51AM (#31948182)
I don't see how you can say this. The 2 most valuable tech companies started in the 2000s are Facebook and Google. Those 2 companies are glorified Ad Companies that happen to provide a service so they can aggregate data to sell more ads.

Other than organizing the information of the internet (lately it is debatable as to how well they have been doing this lately) via google, what value addition would you say facebook or google is providing?

Same thing with Uber, now that VCs are no longer subsidizing Car rides for the entire world, it's just a more expensive cab.

What are the tech ventures that have been adding value addition to society. Based on the experience i've had with family members becomes complete Q psychos i'd say net negative on facebook's part and they dont even build anything.