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Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by walleeee on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @05:23PM (#31925879)
An all-American clone of an app like TikTok is not much better than TikTok itself imo, all things considered

There are deeper and farther-reaching issues here than competition between nation-states for information supremacy

Effects of regular use on cognition and attention span, data harvesting, pervasive advertising, etc

This affects humanity at large and the US particularly profoundly, as the US is friendlier to the most pernicious media business models than nearly anywhere else, and we are among the world's most addicted to new media

National sovereignty/security concerns are understandable and legitimate. This is a criticism many outside the US have been leveling at relentless American cultural export for decades

Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by maccolgan on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @06:53PM (#31926688)
“American” is a granfalloon.
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by walleeee on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @07:24PM (#31926982)
that's a big and messy bag of worms and given the contextual ambiguity I'm having a hard time agreeing or disagreeing with any conviction, although I do agree American identity is in many of its deployments a pretty empty concept

is there anything in particular about my comment that makes you say so?

Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by est on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @05:45PM (#31926087)
> An all-American clone of an app like TikTok is little better than the Chinese version imo

Tiktok is the all-American clone of Chinese version Douyin.

Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by walleeee on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @05:47PM (#31926102)
an American clone would presumably not be built by a Chinese company
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by est on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @06:10PM (#31926303)
> all-American clone

Except every US tech company has some Chinese personals, H-1B or not?

Suppose there is a US company that builds and runs a Tiktok alternative. Should the staff be screened by race and birth certificates to make the company "pure American"?

Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by walleeee on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @06:15PM (#31926358)
Can you help me understand the point you're making with regard to my original comment?
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by est on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @06:22PM (#31926411)
The point is what defines "all-american"? all-American funds? all-American CEOs? all-American staff?
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by walleeee on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @07:30PM (#31927025)
ok, I see

maybe one relevant factor is proximity to a nation's power centers or governing bodies, i.e. a company might be judged more or less "American" or "Chinese" not on the basis of its staff's diversity but on the influence of the state in its operations and strategy

my intention wasn't at all to suggest some notion of nationalist purity, it was to emphasize the social and psychological effects of new media platforms on the human mind regardless of country of origin or affiliation

Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by NickC25 on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @06:43PM (#31926601)
Douyin was a clone of Music.ly , an American developed app.
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by est on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @07:37PM (#31927087)