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Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by moffkalast on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @06:45PM (#31914066)
Perhaps so, but perhaps not. The weapons that "will hopefully never be used" are the best kind - a war deterrent - and contribute the most towards peace, since the alternative is so unthinkable that nobody would ever go for it. Laws (or in this case international agreements) are only a thing if they're enforced by consequences, otherwise people ignore them the first chance they get... as it's become painfully obvious these past few months.

It's pretty clear that without those brilliant minds that invented nukes we'd be at WW4 or 5 by now.

Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by WastingMyTime89 on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @08:20PM (#31914884)
> as it's become painfully obvious these past few months

Then again it might have been less obvious if the USA didn’t push its military alliance towards the east contrary to the opinions of its own diplomats for the past thirty years at the expense of its stated goal of furthering peace and been consistently working on disturbing the balance with projects like the BMD.

So actually it’s not pretty clear at all.

Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by yellowapple on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @12:41AM (#31916570)
Ah yes, the "Why'd you make me hit you, baby?" approach to geopolitics.
Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by adhesive_wombat on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @02:13AM (#31917025)
To be fair "look what you made me do" is actually often pretty close to the mark when it comes to geopolitical rationales.

For a start, it was an excuse for WWII ("we don't want to invade Czechoslovakia but we've been pushed to it by the iniquity of Versailles"). And then the nuclear arms race on both sides ("we're only building missiles because you are"). And Afghanistan/Iraq ("you left us no choice/this is for your own benefit").

When you're getting into a war it's usually a good idea for a leader to blame the other guy for the cost and damage.

It doesn't make it right, it's just that along with "nuh uh not touching you", "they started it" and "stop hitting yourself", it's a common pattern to see.

Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by moffkalast on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @06:27AM (#31918362)
What I see clearly is this:

- NATO countries have nukes, therefore they don't get invaded

- Russia has nukes, therefore they don't get invaded

- Ukraine does not have nukes, therefore despite the non-proliferation and Russian friendship treaties which guarantee not being invaded, they got invaded anyway because they have no deterrent and nobody gives a fuck

It's really as simple as that.

Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by daniel-cussen on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @11:27AM (#31921525)
Yeah it's the nation-state equivalent of owning a gun.
Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by moffkalast on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @11:31AM (#31921581)
Nah that would be more like the standard armed forces, This is like owning a trigger to a pile of TNT under every house in town that you'll detonate if anyone decides to break into your house.
Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by nocoiner on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @11:44PM (#31916240)
God, I love it when I come across a Russian troll in the wild. Nice work on getting your definite articles right on this one!
Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by WastingMyTime89 on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @06:17AM (#31918293)
You can as I do at the same time think that the war in Ukraine is a scandalous act for which Russia is to blame and that NATO policies since the fall of the Berlin Wall have been poorly thought out and mostly detrimental to security in Europe. It’s not an either or.

In the same way, I believe that Russia should bear the long term consequences of the war but that the constant delivery of advanced weapons without pushing Ukraine and Russia to negotiate ending the conflict is mostly a cynical geopolitical play allowing the USA to weaken one of his opponent at the expense of foreign lives.

The world is not black and white and standing on the side which seems morally right doesn’t mean you are not exposed yourself to propaganda.

Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by boffinAudio on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @06:55AM (#31918514)
.. not to mention, the US is NOT morally right on the issue of illegal wars, invasions, war crimes and crimes against humanity. In fact, it is the worlds most heinous violator of human rights, period.

You don't have to be a Russian to understand that. You just have to be willing to look for yourself and see America's war victims, the endless streams of refugees it has created around the world, the piles of human waste that were created for the sake of America's warmonger industries.