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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by mcguire on Friday June 24, 2022 @02:55PM (#31867661)
"Other things the Supreme Court has blocked state law using the same logic as roe v Wade (due process of the 14th amendment[0]) on are blocking contraception bans (grisewald), overturning anti-sodomy laws (lawrence), and giving equal protection to gay marriage (obergafel)."

One odd thing about this is that there is another case with the same 14th amendment reasoning which no one seems to be discussing: Loving v. Virginia (https://www.oyez.org/cases/1966/395).

I wonder if that's because Clarence and Ginni Thomas have been committing miscegenation for years?

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by rayiner on Friday June 24, 2022 @03:06PM (#31867812)
No, it's because Loving v. Virginia has a clear textual basis in the 14th amendment's Equal Protection Clause, while Roe and Griswold are divined from "penumbras" and "emanations" using the hook of the 14th amendment's Due Process Clause. Loving v. Virginia relied on both bases, but the Equal Protection rationale would have been adequate standing alone.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by selimthegrim on Friday June 24, 2022 @03:14PM (#31867946)
If Slaughterhouse is reopened, do you think the right will see the attempt to resurrect privileges or immunities (as per RBG) and raise (counter) with the holding against birthright citizenship in it?
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by mattnewton on Friday June 24, 2022 @03:04PM (#31867790)
The equal protection clause is different from the due process clause, and Thomas can easily split his decision over that. As an originalist too, he would likely ask if the 14th amendment was meant to protect the rights of black people to at the time, and it was clearly meant to protect the rights of recently freed slaves so it isn’t much of a stretch, you can basically trip into this interpretation.

So I think he would be wholly unbothered making that distinction, knowing that _his_ rights are protected under a different clause. I guess it does show some of the fragility of judicial precedent, you could imagine an even more conservative justice who was not Thomas restricting the interpretation of this clause to mean only the narrow rights the majority of people in 1868 would have liked and not include miscegenation through some horribly tortured logic. But Thomas can draw the line before that and after himself.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by selimthegrim on Friday June 24, 2022 @03:13PM (#31867914)
Keep in mind in 1992 when WV amended its state constitution to remove the miscegenation prohibition 25% wanted to keep it.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by sillystuff on Friday June 24, 2022 @04:40PM (#31869011)
The 14 amendment was also used as justification for granting "personhood" to corporations. Not likely that this court would consider reversing this.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by morelisp on Friday June 24, 2022 @02:59PM (#31867719)
> I wonder if that's because Clarence and Ginni Thomas have been committing miscegenation for years?

Please, I'm eating. Besides, there's no evidence of this.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by jyounker on Friday June 24, 2022 @03:09PM (#31867864)
Do you mean no evidence of his motivation, or no evidence that they've been committing miscegenation?
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by morelisp on Friday June 24, 2022 @03:11PM (#31867884)
The latter, but if I'm wrong please don't link to it.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by hirako2000 on Friday June 24, 2022 @04:35PM (#31868967)
You have problems eating thinking of "`races` mixing" ? What about this: the entire humanity is, that is all specimen, including yourself, is the outcome of in and outbreeding between countless ethnies, groups of different skin colors, cultures and even religion/folklore followers.

If you have a digesting problem with this, we may just call it nature but your comment is what could put many not at ease. That being said, I would at least guess we agree on the ruling that it gets us closer to nature and some commonly accepted ethic with regards to human life and procreation.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by checker on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:34PM (#31869643)
I support your position, but I'm pretty sure he was cracking a tasteless joke at the thought of the specific people of Clarence and Ginni getting it on rather than all people of mixed races.

It's a reddit-level comment that doesn't add anything to the discussion.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by morelisp on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:44PM (#31869791)
> It's a reddit-level comment that doesn't add anything to the discussion.

That still makes it a rhetorical step up from Thomas's concurrence.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by cplanas on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:13PM (#31869379)
I think he meant particularly Ginny and Clarence Thomas, not people of different races in general.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by morelisp on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:21PM (#31869479)
I'll compromise. Justices can miscegenate or plot to overthrow an election, but not both.