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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by wollsmoth on Friday June 24, 2022 @12:35PM (#31865178)
I do hope that this will motivate us to get some amendments passed to codify some of the rights that we've gained from court rulings. I hope this turns into blowback against the Republicans but I think there's a long road. I guess people just don't believe things will get "that bad" and now we'll see.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by inlined on Friday June 24, 2022 @01:24PM (#31866104)
With the current Supreme Court the literal text of the constitution doesn’t matter. For example, the text of the second amendment is pretty clear that the right to bear arms is in the pursuit of a well regulated militia. Our militia has since been regulated into the national guard. The second amendment is nothing more than a constitutional right to enlist in the national guard, but it’s used to promote/codify extreme ideologies.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by tick_tock_tick on Friday June 24, 2022 @04:21PM (#31868794)
> The second amendment is nothing more than a constitutional right to enlist in the national guard, but it’s used to promote/codify extreme ideologies.

A well balanced breakfast, being necessary to a healthy diet, the right of the people to grow and eat food, shall not be infringed.

Who has the right to grow and eat food?

A) The people (with no other condition)

B) The people (after a waiting period and background check)

C) A well balanced breakfast

D) A healthy diet

E) The police

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by chmod600 on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:00PM (#31869241)
Another form I've seen is:

"A well-educated electorate, being necessary for the endurance of a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed."

Clearly you couldn't expect the right to keep and read books to only apply to the well-educated electorate.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by wollsmoth on Friday June 24, 2022 @04:39PM (#31869007)
Yeah, this is more or less my understanding of it as well. I assume you're pointing at A. I can't speak to the intent because I'm not a history/law guy.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by Dylan16807 on Saturday June 25, 2022 @01:33AM (#31872839)
Is there a reason your poll has no options similar to "people that [will] eat breakfast [with the food they grow]"?
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by monocasa on Friday June 24, 2022 @02:55PM (#31867664)
I say this as a lefty: the US defines the militia as essientially including every able bodied man. Since it was written before the 14th amendment, it probably would be interpreted now as every adult.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246

In fact the first weapon ban to hit SCOTUS, US v Miller, hinged on the fact that sawed off shotguns had no military application, which was legal basis allowing them to be banned. The court at the time considered bans of military weapons unconstitutional.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by Clubber on Friday June 24, 2022 @02:18PM (#31867015)
>Our militia has since been regulated into the national guard.

The national guard is controlled by the government, it's not a militia. The last 20+ years or so it's pretty much regular army.

Along a similar line, do you think a free press would be free if the government was the one who decided who was press and who wasn't?

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by wollsmoth on Friday June 24, 2022 @02:06PM (#31866793)
Well, that may be clear to you. I don't think either of us are constitutional scholars but I think if we really want some meaningful gun control we should replace the 2nd amendment with something clearer.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by stjohnswarts on Friday June 24, 2022 @06:52PM (#31870522)
You are wrong about the Second Amendment. It clearly states the rights for both militias AND individuals, it's not hard to suss out if you know anything about the period in which it was written.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by chmod600 on Friday June 24, 2022 @04:54PM (#31869164)
This argument comes up a lot, but clearly there's some textual basis. To pretend there isn't is to just put your head in the sand.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by Levitz on Friday June 24, 2022 @08:18PM (#31871164)
"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms" sounds like it's referring to exclusively a militia to you? Preposterous.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by MrMan on Friday June 24, 2022 @01:40PM (#31866372)
people are very disorganized and afraid and bombarded by social media and news media that distorts reality. no one thinks they can do anything and the only people who act in an organized way tend to be antisocial types who just want to take things and control others for their benefit.