I just want uBlock Origin in my phone browser.

By January 2023, uBlock Origin stops working with Manifest V3.

This is the future people are advocating for with Chrome dominance.

Firefox has temporarily saved itself from this but don't worry, Google will eventually tie their hands as well.

No one is safe from an unstoppable spyware company.

https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/338 https://developer.chrome.com/blog/mv2-transition/

It's possible in Firefox (at least in Android)

Unfortunately not on iOS. They're forced to use WebKit which means Firefox on iOS is essentially just a reskin of Safari without access to any Firefox extensions.

iOS Safari has extensions and content blockers though, e.g. 1Blocker is alright.

uBlock Origin unfortunately isn't viable since it needs to see the data and Apple doesn't permit that. Safari content blockers have to provide a list of rules what should be blocked and Safari acts on it without providing any data back to the content blocker.

Apple only allows inspection of the request, and either block or not-block result to filter out ads. This is very limited, as evidenced by comparing to uBlock origin.

Their reasoning is that they want to make it impossible for an adblocker to collect any data.

But I don't care about that because I would chose one adblocker that I trust (uBlock origin). It's a non-issue.

Now I'm forced to use a multitude of native apps that all have far more data collection and access than webapps.

Wipr works for me iOS-I never see ads, including on Youtube. How can uBlock origin work better than that? What am I giving up?

Does anyone else reading these things feel like they are in an Orwellian nightmare? Do we hate Eastasia or Oceania this week?

Apple, caring about privacy? Perhaps I'm just old-school, but I'll never be able to read that without the risk of coffee all over my screen.

Buy an android, you can install firefox + ublock

What phone have you where you are not able to install a browser?

Probably referring to the fact that browsers on iOS are just basically reskins of Safari.

Ah.

And then I'll ask the_gipsy how this is different from every other browser under the sun except Safari and Firefox being just repackaged versions of Chrome?

>except Safari and Firefox

I think that just about says it right there.

On any other operating system you have Chrome, Chromium, Brave, Firefox, Tor Browser, Webkit-based browsers, Text-only browsers, etc. There are so many options.

But on iOS you can use Webkit or you can go fuck yourself.

> On any other operating system you have Chrome, Blue Chrome, Orange Chrome, Firefox, Green Private Firefox, Old Chrome-based browsers, Text-only browsers, etc. There are so many options.

So the alternative is even fewer and worse options? Even counting brave/chrome/chromium as a single browser, that's 1 browser on iOS vs like 5 browsers everywhere else. Chrome/Firefox are way more configurable with plugins.

I am in awe with the lengths that apple apologists in this thread have gone in order to avoid making reasonable value judgements.

I'm curious, why does this always happen whenever Apple's browser monopoly is brought up on HN?

What is it about Apple in general that makes swathes of people take it personally whenever any kind of criticism is leveraged against that particular mega corp?

Just to be clear, I'm probably close to the farthest from being an apple apologist. I just sense bad things happening to the open web with the current browser usage distribution.

But apple isn't forcing you to buy iOS? That's a choice.