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Re:Think twice before founding that free-market utopia by jdminhbg on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:00PM (#31850972)
> utopian capitalism fails much faster than utopian communism

A willingness to imprison entire populations and shoot anyone who won't cooperate will extend an experiment's lifespan significantly.

Re:Think twice before founding that free-market utopia by lovich on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:08PM (#31851118)
That is a critique that can be applied to America as well. There was a long time period where strikes were met with government violence until the labor force went back to work.

Examples:

https://listverse.com/2017/09/14/10-tragic-times-the-us-gove...

Re:Think twice before founding that free-market utopia by jdminhbg on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:11PM (#31851138)
If America were an experiment in utopian capitalism, then OP's point that utopian communist experiments last longer would be wrong. But since America isn't an experiment in utopian capitalism, this is just totally irrelevant.
Re:Think twice before founding that free-market utopia by lovich on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:30PM (#31851477)
It was an experiment in utopian capitalism between the post civil war era and the the beginning of the Great Depression (which if you notice is when most of those worker crackdowns occurred). A feature of democracy that is separate from the economic system is that you can have peaceful revolutions which is what occurred when FDR gained power and implemented the socialist policies of The New Deal.

I’ll grant you that’s still several decades of utopian capitalism before it collapsed which is significantly better than what people might assume if they are only familiar with recent experiments like grafton nh

Re:Think twice before founding that free-market utopia by MisterBastahrd on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:30PM (#31856973)
The US hasn't been willing to imprison entire populations before? It's practically the only thing the government's ever been truly good at.
Re:Think twice before founding that free-market utopia by jdminhbg on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:06PM (#31857366)
If America were an experiment in utopian capitalism, then OP's point that utopian communist experiments last longer would be wrong. But since America isn't an experiment in utopian capitalism, this is just totally irrelevant.
Re:Think twice before founding that free-market utopia by arrosenberg on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:23PM (#31851336)
It's not clear which system you are referring to!
Re:Think twice before founding that free-market utopia by jtode on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:44PM (#31851700)
Perhaps we might get a clue if we look up which country currently has the highest incarceration rate?