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Re:Space-Track confirms presence of 4 secret payloads on Glo... by sokoloff on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @07:06AM (#31822540)
It seems strange to me that there’d be speculation of a launch in any way specific to Ukraine given the short lead time.
Re:Space-Track confirms presence of 4 secret payloads on Glo... by yardstick on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @07:13AM (#31822579)
If it’s true it would be an amazing selling point for SpaceX on just how rapidly they can deploy payloads. Militaries must love the idea of agile space operations.
Re:Space-Track confirms presence of 4 secret payloads on Glo... by nradov on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @08:29AM (#31823048)
Given the proliferation of anti-satellite weapons, agile launch capabilities have become just a basic requirement to win any high-end conflict. Satellites aren't survivable so we have to plan around a high level of attrition, with replacements stockpiled and ready to launch within days or hours.
Re:Space-Track confirms presence of 4 secret payloads on Glo... by dotancohen on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @08:34AM (#31823084)
Agile launch capabilities, but also cheap launch capabilities. Which is another area where SpaceX (comparatively) shines.
Re:Space-Track confirms presence of 4 secret payloads on Glo... by gonzo41 on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @07:24AM (#31822647)
Western Aligned Militaries also have things like Global Hawk and stack and stacks of other toys that can fill a tactical surveillance niche.
Re:Space-Track confirms presence of 4 secret payloads on Glo... by yardstick on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @08:39AM (#31823130)
Can always put in space sensitive equipment that you wouldn’t want shot down by “simple” surface to air weaponry and their technology exposed to the adversary.
Re:Space-Track confirms presence of 4 secret payloads on Glo... by gonzo41 on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @10:10AM (#31824151)
There's like a big jump in platform cost and capability (downgrade) wise when you throw a satellite up. Putting a new ISTAR package on a drone is a lot cheaper than making changes to a satellite.
Re:Space-Track confirms presence of 4 secret payloads on Glo... by Jon_Lowtek on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @11:41AM (#31825202)
> short lead time

that russia may try to militarily annex eastern ukraine was rather obvious for many years. Ukraine sits between NATO and russia. A majority of its population had been in favor of joining the former. The eastern ukraine holds large reserves of natural resources and pro-russian separatists. The later are used as a casus belli for an ethno-nationalist anschluss. Lastly it is not like the 2014 war truly ever ended: there had been 410.000 cease fire violation in 2017 alone, for example.

Re:Space-Track confirms presence of 4 secret payloads on Glo... by pimpampum on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @12:45PM (#31826075)
They are "autonomists" not "separatists", what they were asking for and agreed on the two Minsk accords was "autonomy" not "independence". There's certain intentionality in painting them as separatists.
Re:Space-Track confirms presence of 4 secret payloads on Glo... by aordano on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @01:01PM (#31826327)
Geniune question:

¿Is there any difference in practice between "autonomy" and "se paration" in the context of governance here?

Re:Space-Track confirms presence of 4 secret payloads on Glo... by Jon_Lowtek on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @02:33PM (#31827385)
in a year the LPR and DNR will be seperated from ukraine and a part of Russia. This annexation has been planned and prepared for a long time. I agree that such conflicts are never easy and there are many small factions with different goals and beliefs on the ground, but claiming this is about autonomy is part of their casus belli: a construct in which the russian ethno-nationalists pretend they didn't ask for much and got nothing but abuse. In actuality the leadership of the LPR and DNR removed ukrainian both as an official language and from their schools curriculum years ago and started paying pensions in rubles. They advertised their plans very clearly and loudly, calling their intermediate construct "Новороссия" - new russia. It is like calling western czech "Sudetendeutschland". Their goal is not autonomy but unification with russia. Always has been. So calling them seperatists is quite fitting. But i agree the term may only describe a minority in the region, not the general population.
Re:Space-Track confirms presence of 4 secret payloads on Glo... by Rebelgecko on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @11:15AM (#31824894)
And given the potential orbit. It seems like if the goal was solely Ukraine/Russia they'd be using a Molniya orbit, or something similar that would spend more time over the area in question
Re:Space-Track confirms presence of 4 secret payloads on Glo... by fragmede on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @09:59PM (#31831242)
It seems reasonable to me if you presume the hardware is loaded and ready to go, and all that's needed is to know exactly which orbit it needs to be put into.