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Re:SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking... by onion2k on Friday June 17, 2022 @11:36AM (#31779785)
Edit: Isn't getting kicked off twitter simply a consequence of saying something that's against twitter's TOS? What definition of free speech is Musk using?

Being banned from Twitter is a consequence of your speech, but it's also restricting your freedom to speak. I imagine Musk feels that not restricting people's freedom of speech is more important than the consequence of banning them.

That doesn't mean he thinks there should be no consequences for speaking. Just that the consequences shouldn't limit your freedom to speak.

In this case, people fired from SpaceX are still free to speak out about Musk's brand and its influence on SpaceX. Their speech has not been restricted.

Re:SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking... by Volundr on Friday June 17, 2022 @12:58PM (#31781066)
> In this case, people fired from SpaceX are still free to speak out about Musk's brand and its influence on SpaceX. Their speech has not been restricted.

The people banned from Twitter are still free to speak about whatever as well. Frankly I think SpaceX's actions limit speech more than a Twitter ban. Ex-Twitter users just have to find a new platform, at their convenience. Fired employees have just had there livelihood taken away and have to drop everything and find something new before their savings run out.

To be clear I think SpaceX was well within it's rights to fire these people, but as consequences go I see firing as far more consequential than a Twitter ban.

Re:SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking... by mojzu on Friday June 17, 2022 @12:38PM (#31780775)
Their speech is less likely to be publicised/reported on though, so they have arguably lost some potential audience. In the same way that being banned from Twitter does not restrict your freedom to speak (e.g. you can go to another website, setup your own or stand on a street corner irl), but it does reduce your potential audience
Re:SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking... by mlindner on Friday June 17, 2022 @03:17PM (#31782983)
> Their speech is less likely to be publicised/reported on though

I'd expect them to go on a interview campaign after this actually. I think they'll be quite publicized and amplified.

Re:SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking... by notahacker on Friday June 17, 2022 @01:03PM (#31781135)
This makes no sense. People who are banned from Twitter are still able to speak, just not on Twitter. (Or at least, not on Twitter using that particular account)

People who are fired from SpaceX have absolutely no access to the SpaceX communication channels they were fired for exercising the wrong kind of speech on.