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Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by walrus01 on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:04PM (#31759461)
am I a bad person if I think that people buying the latest hyped NFT deserve to have their 'crypto' drained?

NFTs of art images are such an absurdity.

Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by hourago on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:31PM (#31759721)
Not necessarily a bad person. But to think that people that may not have the education to understand NFTs deserve to be robbed seems to justify to prey on people.

NFTs are an absurdity, but millions are spend on advertising them to an unprotected public. That are the real culprits.

Scammers do not deserve to get any money, that's for sure.

Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by uoaei on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:44PM (#31759830)
You don't need to have the education to understand NFTs to have the knowledge not to put bets down on things you don't understand.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by pcthrowaway on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @06:17PM (#31760130)
Most people don't understand things they invest in/buy.

Most people buying stocks don't understand the company as well as someone who works in the sector.

Most casual art appreciators don't know how to tell if a painting they're buying is a forgery.

Most people buying a house don't know how to assess the foundation, and even if they get a professional assessment, they don't have the same knowledge of the housing market as professionals. Maybe that neighbourhood is slated for rezoning in 5 years that would devalue the property.

Heck, even people buying gold/diamonds get ripped off on fakes/synthetics.

Outside of investments, most people here have probably bought a car. Do people who buy a car deserve to get ripped off if they don't understand how every component works well enough to inspect it themselves?

Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by uoaei on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @07:35PM (#31760794)
It appears crypto bros are on the verge of re-inventing market regulation!
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by drc500free on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @06:54PM (#31760479)
If every transaction required perfect understanding by both parties, there would be no markets. We have regulations to reduce the amount of understanding needed to participate in markets without getting fleeced, which makes the markets function.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by uoaei on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @07:36PM (#31760809)
Precisely the point!
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by BobbyJo on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @06:14PM (#31760109)
I feel the same way about it I do when I see someone blasting down the freeway on a motorcycle in shorts and t-shirt.

If something happens, then we should try to help, but I'm not showing up for the candle lit vigil and pretending it's crazy that 1+1=2.

Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by gowld on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @06:50PM (#31760427)
Seems more like someone walking down the sidewalk at 1am and stopping to buy a drink from a lemonade stand, and getting jumped by a gang and mugged.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by brutusborn on Thursday June 16, 2022 @12:28AM (#31762443)
Crypto is new and unknown for most people, and high risk-high reward. Lemonade stands are tried and tested, and most people understand them well. I think a better analogy would be someone walking into a trap-house and buying drugs: they might have the high of their life, or they could get robbed. There are no regulations, so it is up to the individual to use their "street-smarts" to be successful. A person who gets robbed buying drugs or loses Crypto in a scam can be criticized, whether this is "victim blaming" or "being realistic" is just semantics.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by kareemsabri on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:50PM (#31759892)
I don't think they "deserve" to be robbed but I do think at this point the sketchiness of the defi sector is pretty apparent.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by cinntaile on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @06:11PM (#31760084)
I think DeFi and NFT are different sectors?
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by xwolfi on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @11:07PM (#31762118)
But weirdly exactly the same actors.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by kareemsabri on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @06:20PM (#31760166)
you're probably right. swap DeFi with NFTs and the sentence still holds though.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by aleksiy123 on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:08PM (#31759508)
Yes, people who spend their money on things you don't approve of deserve to lose their money.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by rvnx on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:09PM (#31759515)
Please disapprove real estate, buying a house is really too expensive and it makes it difficult to find decent housing.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by walrus01 on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:09PM (#31759520)
patiently waiting for a "vancouver real estate market drainer" phishing service that can cause a real world market crash.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by bombcar on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:23PM (#31759641)
There we go, a use case for NFTs! If Vancouver real estate was all on the block chain then people could steal it and so people wouldn't want to own it because it'd get stolen, and prices would drop!
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by rvnx on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:17PM (#31759592)
Thank you anon. You are my hero.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by onesafari on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:37PM (#31759773)
Seriously tho, how are people affording these mortgages? Is everyone living paycheck to paycheck or what?
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by walrus01 on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:44PM (#31759828)
the percentage of american wage earners who are living paycheck-to-paycheck is probably a lot higher than you think it is.

even couples with dual six figure salaries.

Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by efitz on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:50PM (#31759898)
Lifestyle often expands to consume available income. And sometimes more.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by walrus01 on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:53PM (#31759932)
hey let's buy a $60,000 pontoon boat on a 60-month loan, and a jetski, what could possibly go wrong
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by woodruffw on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:28PM (#31759687)
It's clear the GP isn't making a categorical claim about disapproval.

It's more likely they think that the victims here had every available opportunity to exercise basic diligence. I'm not sure I actually agree with that (I think a lot of the people getting scammed here are being predated on by a market that thrives on misinformation), but that's a far cry from how you've interpreted the comment.

Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by aleksiy123 on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:50PM (#31759904)
To be honest I'm more concerned with the "deserve to be scammed" part. The "because I don't like it" is cherry on top.

My point is if you read that comment it takes a second of introspection to come to an answer.

Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by jdtang13 on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @06:05PM (#31760036)
People don't deserve to be scammed. Imagine if your own grandma or teenage cousin fell victim to this.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by mbreese on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @06:28PM (#31760238)
Teenagers have been getting scammed for years. Not that they deserve it, but advertising the impossible to the gullible has a long history.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray_specs

Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by kareemsabri on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @06:12PM (#31760091)
lol who's grandma is buying NFTs? my teenage cousin doesn't have any money so better they get scammed now and learn.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by nkrisc on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:51PM (#31759909)
I don’t know if they “deserve” it but I sure hoped they learned a valuable lesson about cryptocurrencies.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by TacticalCoder on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @06:12PM (#31760101)
> am I a bad person if I think that people buying the latest hyped NFT deserve to have their 'crypto' drained?

I'll tell you this: the scummy thieves who drain these deserve it even less.

Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by xwdv on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:22PM (#31759630)
Crypto is a net negative for the world, so anyone should feel free to pillage crypto assets and redistribute them to other more noble causes.

People must learn to avoid crypto. We can teach them why.

Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by politician on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:49PM (#31759885)
What other things do you disapprove of that absolve people of the crime of theft?

PS: Read your HN profile: Submitting stories is by far the best way to earn karma. Comments are small potatoes.

Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by Gigachad on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @07:56PM (#31760945)
Not strictly theft, but I approve of people criminally obstructing actions which are bad for the environment. Destruction or obstruction of coal power mining/generation or smaller movements like deflating the tires of luxury SUVs.

If the law doesn't take environmental action seriously then individuals have to take control. Destroying the entire crypto market, even criminally, would be a benefit to the world.

Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by googlryas on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @06:15PM (#31760117)
If you truly believe that? Then yes.
Re:“Crypto drainer” template facilitates theft by nathias on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:44PM (#31759829)
yes