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Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by vorpalhex on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @01:06PM (#31755981)
My game library falls into two categories - very engaging active games (Battlefield, Tarkov, etc) and very passive games like Keplerth or The Hunter.

Sometimes you want to feel an adrenaline rush. Sometimes you just want to tend a garden or walk a forest.

Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by ishjoh on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @01:18PM (#31756167)
> Sometimes you just want to tend a garden or walk a forest

I do both of these things a fair amount IRL, I'm not trying to single you out I just want to understand motivations for playing these games, is there a reason you do these activities in a game as opposed to IRL?

Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by corrral on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @02:22PM (#31757091)
You can start a game instantly. No travel. No travel expense, either. No packing. No un-packing. No arranging for someone to watch your pets if it's going to be long enough for that to matter. No dealing with taking the kids with you, or finding some other place for them to be. Your spouse doesn't have to want to go.

No spiderwebs on your face. No biting and/or disease-carrying insects. No oppressive humidity. No getting soaked by a sudden rainstorm. No sunburns. No twisting an ankle and having a horrible time getting back out. No taking a wrong turn and ending up having to go much farther than you'd counted on, to get back.

Much or all of the game world may be crafted to be interesting. Even very nice natural areas have boring bits, and you can't fast-travel past them.

You can do it even if you're injured, or tired.

If the game has tasks, they usually have far faster reward loops than their real-life equivalents. The real-life versions might have more clean-up or mess. You have to actually physically do a bunch of stuff where the game might have a button press. You also have to know how to do it, and have the tools (if any) to do it. This is why obsessive players of games that feature gardening or farming usually don't become avid hobby-gardeners in real-life.

Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by henriquecm8 on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @03:11PM (#31757878)
Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by Doxin on Thursday June 16, 2022 @03:29AM (#31763393)
Even that game skips a lot of the tedious bits from unpacking stuff though. There's no packing stuff first. there's no moving van. there's no discarding empty boxes.
Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by Mwow on Thursday June 16, 2022 @05:55AM (#31764202)
For me personally I'm starting to accept that natur means putting on sun cream, accepting ticks and mosquito s etc.

I don't want to become like the girl in the latest blade runner who only lives in her room.

Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by duckmysick on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @02:35PM (#31757291)
I do gardening in my spare time but I also enjoyed playing Stardew Valley - a game where you bring back to life an abandonded farm.

Video games have faster feedback loop compared to real life. You progress and get rewards much faster. For example, I could finish an entire growing season in one long evening of playing. And it's not just scaling time. The tasks themselves are simplified to balance complexity, difficulty, and fun. You only have a handful of tools that never break. You don't have to worry about plant diseses, pests, droughts, floodings, or freezing temperatures in spring. The only thing you need to manage is watering (which you have an infinite supply of) and crows (which are repelled with a scarecrow).

The barriers of entry are lower too. There are games that let you drive a truck of fly a plane; things which would be prohibitively expensive in real life.

Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by ridgered4 on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @03:18PM (#31757988)
It's cheaper (no need to buy supplies) so you can do things you'd never be able to afford IRL. Which also allows you to experiment with more things. This also lessens the consequences of failure.

You can do the activity when there's free time (like at night) with no real planning.

You can put the task down for months on end without negative results because time is constrained to the game world. Or put another way, constant upkeep tasks and their results can be perfectly saved.

Game worlds can be tightly controlled if you wish it. Reality is uncontrollable.

Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by gxnxcxcx on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @09:08PM (#31761470)
> You can put the task down for months on end without negative results because time is constrained to the game world. Or put another way, constant upkeep tasks and their results can be perfectly saved.

After a very brief taste of Elder Scrolls Online I realized I really, really dislike when game time rules seep too much into real life and start contaminating my schedule.

Nowadays I can't stand even the simplest habit-forming daily rewards loop of mobile games.

Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by RC_ITR on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @01:34PM (#31756380)
If the goal is visual evidence of accomplishment, then one gives you that while relaxing the other gives you that while bending over and tiring out your core/upper body.

I won’t make moralistic judgements on which is better, but I will say all else equal, a lot of people prefer physical passivity.

Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by ljp_206 on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @02:03PM (#31756820)
A few potential reasons: In games the rewards are much more immediate, even if we play a game that requires waiting. Gardens and forests may not be near, available, or accessible when gamers are ready to relax. Gamers may not be physically able to partake in such activities. You might need to pay or buy something (shoes, a car, a park pass, garden mulch, tools...) to participate.
Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by burntoutfire on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @04:13PM (#31758820)
People live in flats with no garden, or don't live near a forest or anything beautiful really, or finish their shift when it's already dark. Or maybe it's just raining or 105 F outside.
Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by vorpalhex on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:10PM (#31759524)
I also go hiking in real life when possible, but that is a minimum commitment of four hours and by the time I get off work that isn't usually doable.

On the other hand, it only takes about five minutes to boot a game and be walking the PNW.

Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by LizardsAreCute on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @01:52PM (#31756639)
While I do go for walks here, the nature in the Netherlands is mostly very boring.
Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by corrral on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @02:35PM (#31757301)
True in very large stretches of the US, as well. Though we also have a bunch of huge regions with beautiful, varied, striking natural environments, of course.
Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by megablast on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @09:25PM (#31761571)
They don’t drive anywhere polluting the planet to walk in a forest. That’s a big difference.
Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by ohwellhere on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @01:30PM (#31756318)
Do you sometimes like to eat apples and sometimes like to eat oranges?
Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by raxxorraxor on Thursday June 16, 2022 @04:42AM (#31763756)
You would need to have a garden to start with.
Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by aaaaaaaaaaab on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @02:12PM (#31756960)
Ticks.
Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by therein on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @02:03PM (#31756810)
> Sometimes you want to feel an adrenaline rush. Sometimes you just want to tend a garden or walk a forest.

And that's where Rust comes in. You're tending your garden, keeping your base in order and then people come with rockets and C4.

Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by capableweb on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @02:07PM (#31756872)
The only difference between that and what GP said, is that in Rust you don't have any player agency in deciding when people come after you or not. Switching between adrenaline/calm single-player games, you get to decide at your own pleasure :)
Re:Mundane chores are all the rage in gaming by vogt on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @02:16PM (#31757009)
Same exact deal here. I LOVE powerwash simulator mentioned in the article. Also love sweating out hours in payday 2 getting raided by horde after horde of enemies.