Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence
by oblio on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @09:39AM
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> communism isn’t associated with the far left
In what world? :-))
Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence
by jleyank on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @09:53AM
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The same world where fascism isn’t associated with the far right. Where jargon is fluid and arbitrary. Was responding to previous post trying to separate fascism/right wing.
Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence
by currere on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @10:28AM
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How do you like Umberto Eco's attempt to characterize ur-fascism?
Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence
by dahfizz on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @10:40AM
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> The same world where fascism isn’t associated with the far right.
I made no such argument. Fasicm isn't associated with the actual, modern day right wing of politics.
This is why "far right" is such a slippery and nefarious term. It allows you to conflate right wing politics and facsism.
If you think the Tories are fascist, then make that argument. Don't hide behind this newspeak.
Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence
by randomswede on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @07:59AM
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In the same world where fascism isn't associated with the far right.
There are many possible axes to divide politics, in many (but not necessarily all) conservative politics and fascism tends to be projected to similar spaces and Soviet-style communism and socially-progressive politics to the same.
Once you start looking at multiple of these at the same time, things do tend to look quite different.
How about: leaders <- government <- owners <-> workers -> government -> leaders. Which I can’t format in a circle. And the presence or absence of “for all” can be a tell about where on the political spectrum people or groups sit.
It’s generally accepted that the red states sit to the right vs. the blue states and the us sits to the right of Western Europe. There’s a spectrum of countries as there’s a spectrum of states (or provinces in Canada). The “political middle ground” can be constructed from this set and then decorated with secular or religions states from elsewhere throughout.