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Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by cs702 on Monday June 13, 2022 @11:41AM (#31727100)
Anecdotally, a lot of people have been using a lot of leverage to do a lot of insanely speculative things with cryptocurrency over the past few years. And it's worked out great for them... until now. I imagine many leveraged speculators are facing the prospects of financial ruin.
Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by chemmail on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @04:21AM (#31736143)
This is basically all markets when the government prints 80% of all US dollars in existence. Everyone gambles with money they got from thin air. The air wants it back now.
Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by pedalpete on Monday June 13, 2022 @12:12PM (#31727515)
I believe you are right, and it is quite awful. Though from what I can tell, stock trading accounts offer similar leverage tools.

I sincerely feel for the people who got in over their heads.

Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by blitzar on Monday June 13, 2022 @12:19PM (#31727606)
> I sincerely feel for the people who got in over their heads.

They were insufferable pricks when they were making loads and laughing at everyone else staying poor. Why would I give them a second thought on the other side? btw: same goes for some tech entrepreneurs too.

Remember: Be Nice to People on Your Way Up. You’ll Meet Them On Your Way Down

Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by cj on Monday June 13, 2022 @12:30PM (#31727788)
The vocal people you read about online are a minority. The vast majority (99%+) of investors losing money are doing so silently.
Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by TuringNYC on Monday June 13, 2022 @12:36PM (#31727897)
>> Why would I give them a second thought on the other side?

Because if enough of them hurt, soon the government wants to bail them out, and you and I pay for that bailout with taxes.

Or perhaps the government forces the platform to absorb the losses, and you and I pay for that with higher fees in the future.

Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by babypuncher on Monday June 13, 2022 @12:57PM (#31728208)
I think there is a far more likely third option; the government hands down crypto regulations similar to the financial regulations put in place during the first half of the 20th century.
Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by jonny_eh on Monday June 13, 2022 @12:40PM (#31727958)
> soon the government wants to bail them out

I would be genuinely shocked, and outraged, if the government bails out crypto investors. It has been common knowledge how risky that sector is.

Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by martin8412 on Monday June 13, 2022 @12:43PM (#31728008)
Government might go after those selling unregulated securities, but I doubt tax money will be used to bail anyone out.
Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by blitzar on Monday June 13, 2022 @01:10PM (#31728410)
Heads they win, tails I lose.
Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by nradov on Monday June 13, 2022 @12:53PM (#31728159)
Retail stock trading accounts generally don't allow more than 2× leverage (although options trades and certain ETFs can sort of simulate higher leverage).

Why should I feel for cryptocurrency "investors" who got in over their heads? If they all end up bankrupt that would be a perfectly acceptable outcome, and a valuable object lesson in the importance of making smart decisions.

Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by pedalpete on Monday June 13, 2022 @02:29PM (#31729470)
You are correct to use the term "investors" with quotes, but if I understand your intention, you are suggesting they are gamblers, and therefore deserve to lose.

You're talking about the general public who for the most part don't own stocks, or when they do, that is treated like gambling (RobinHood).

Then you get big name stars, people they trust, to tell them they should be buying crypto. They see it go up, and then see they don't have to spend more, they can just get more, like BNPL, or payday loan for investments that go up. They say "yes please, how much can I get".

Sure, some people were just a*holes over leveraging themselves and taking a risk. But I suspect many people didn't know how deep they could go, or what they could get themselves into.

Even if you disagree with how somebody got into a situation, doesn't mean you can't have empathy for their position.

Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by nradov on Monday June 13, 2022 @03:14PM (#31730264)
I have no empathy for their position.
Re:Binance ‘pauses’ Bitcoin withdrawals amid market collapse by pedalpete on Monday June 13, 2022 @06:48PM (#31732725)
You might want to get that looked at :)