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Re:How to Do a Handstand by throw7 on Saturday June 11, 2022 @07:33PM (#31709529)
Someone from zero cannot do a handstand in 30 days. Period. I think it's a cool goal, but you ain't doing in 30 days.
Re:How to Do a Handstand by xboxnolifes on Saturday June 11, 2022 @07:49PM (#31709660)
What do you consider to be from zero? Zero exercise experience ever? Zero gymnastic experience? Zero sport experience?

I've never been able to maintain balance of a handstand as a kid, I haven't actively played sports since middle school, and I haven't done any amount of meaningful exercise in over 3 years now. Yet, I feel very confident I could do a handstand within 30 days of practice.

Re:How to Do a Handstand by lemming on Sunday June 12, 2022 @01:47AM (#31711806)
Yet, I feel very confident I could do a handstand within 30 days of practice.

So was I :-)

If you're talking about a freestanding handstand, held for 15-20 seconds, then I would bet a beer that your confidence is misplaced. It's surprisingly hard, it requires a lot more strength than you'd think and the balance take a lot to learn.

You don't have to take it from me, you can take it from Jeff Bezos's friend's handstand coach: https://www.inc.com/tommy-mello/in-a-recent-shareholder-lett...

Re:How to Do a Handstand by 2muchcoffeeman on Sunday June 12, 2022 @02:13AM (#31711959)
6 months for an adult is pretty good!
Re:How to Do a Handstand by lemming on Sunday June 12, 2022 @03:15AM (#31712319)
Yes, I guess that was with daily practice and a coach. I’d say a year is probably more realistic for most people, or even more. It certainly took me longer than that.
Re:How to Do a Handstand by quickthrower2 on Saturday June 11, 2022 @08:48PM (#31710072)
I imagine for the typical HNer: Reasonably fit at school, let themselves go abit since working full time. Might go to the gym for strength (10% probability) or keep fit generally (30% probability), but very unlikey to do a lot of core work / yoga / gymnastic type exercises. Doing a plank for example would be difficult.

This is my guess.

If writing an article that says 0-30 then you have to assume worse that that - someone who has never run a mile.

Re:How to Do a Handstand by Teever on Saturday June 11, 2022 @09:43PM (#31710445)
Why?

Is there really anything fitness wise that a person who literally has never run a mile can do in 30 days?

You might as well criticize this by saying that an 80 yo couldn't do this in in 30 days.

Re:How to Do a Handstand by johnamata on Saturday June 11, 2022 @11:01PM (#31710898)
Learning to do pull-ups was for me. I bought a pull up bar around late February and I just did dead hangs randomly throughout the day, attempting to do chinups every time. I started with chinups as I found it easier than pullups. I did easily around 100 attempts a day and by the end of the month could do 10x5 pullups (neutral grip, i find it more natural), but the breaks from each set is like 3-5+ minutes. Today my routine is 20 sets of 12 pullups 3x a week, this time the breaks from each set is about 1 minute. I also started pushups around that time, and within a month I could do 10x10. Now my routine is 10 sets of 32 reps. I could max out more reps but my bottleneck is breathing: I would run out of air before my muscles fatigue, same with my pullups. Looking for advice on that but I think the biggest factor is either my breathing is wrong, or that because I dont do cardio.
Re:How to Do a Handstand by manwe150 on Sunday June 12, 2022 @12:38AM (#31711496)
cardio capacity develops differently than strength and generally slower, but can be trained for directly too like you did for strength by frequently doing things that make you breathe hard and then pushing that limit

depending on what you are doing now, you could also focus on continuous breathing so that you don’t hold your breath, which can be a normal reaction to doing something with power, but limits endurance

Re:How to Do a Handstand by purplerabbit on Sunday June 12, 2022 @09:30AM (#31714355)
Cardio will make a massive difference. You will hit a similar sort of wall with strength training conditioning without increasing your cardio capacity

Mixing interval training and steady state cardio works wonders

Re:How to Do a Handstand by quickthrower2 on Sunday June 12, 2022 @03:26AM (#31712393)
They could run a mile in 30 days maybe
Re:How to Do a Handstand by unrealhoang on Saturday June 11, 2022 @08:46PM (#31710062)
Also the hardness of handstand is strictly dependent on your weight. A normal person at 50kg should have no problem learning handstand in 30 days, 90kg with no prior fitness training to handstand in 60 days is next to impossible.
Re:How to Do a Handstand by Jtsummers on Saturday June 11, 2022 @09:03PM (#31710201)
A 90kg person can definitely get to it in 60 days. My only fitness before starting BJJ in 2015 was running (which I did regularly) and I weighed about 90kg. I was successfully hand walking down the length of the mats during our warmups in a couple months (though I was falling a lot in the first month, and was never stellar at it).

I'm also uncertain how 50kg is the weight of a normal person. If I get below 75kg I'm around 5% body fat, and I'm barely above the US male average height. Getting to 50kg would mean losing a substantial amount of muscle mass, I literally have never had enough fat and so little muscle (even when I was obese) to be able to healthily cut down to that weight. And, again, I'm only about 1cm over the US average.

Re:How to Do a Handstand by smsm42 on Saturday June 11, 2022 @11:10PM (#31710959)
If you're a regular runner, you probably are pretty lean, way leaner than an average techie, and probably leaner than most people. 90kg can be 90kg at 15% fat, or 90kg at 20% fat, or 90kg at 30% fat. Those would be very different starting points.
Re:How to Do a Handstand by pedrosorio on Sunday June 12, 2022 @02:12AM (#31711949)
> I'm also uncertain how 50kg is the weight of a normal person. (...)

In this paragraph you seem to be interpreting "A normal person at 50kg" from the parent comment to mean "the average person, who weighs 50kg", when what they are saying is "a 50kg person who is neither too fit not too out of shape". A slim (but not extremely thin) 5'4" (1.62m) woman weighs around that much.

Re:How to Do a Handstand by taylorius on Sunday June 12, 2022 @04:34AM (#31712819)
I'm 6'4" (192cm) and 120kg. I do Capoeira (which I would HIGHLY recommend for fitness, and general good times. It's a blend of martial arts kicks and acrobatic type moves - very dynamic, and visually spectacular). I'm developing my handstand, and strength-wise it's fine, my problem is the fear of falling over backwards. My practice space is hard wood floor, and I do NOT fancy crashing down like a falling tree. If I know the wall is there to catch me if I go over, I'm fine - so I probably need to try with a crash mat or something.
Re:How to Do a Handstand by tomcdonnell on Sunday June 12, 2022 @06:25AM (#31713429)
To get over the fear of falling over backwards, you must learn to turn your tree trunk like fall into a collapse to a ball and then a forward roll. If you have a bit of muscle on your back and shoulders rolling even on a hard floor should not be too uncomfortable. (A crash mat is still a good idea though.)
Re:How to Do a Handstand by 2muchcoffeeman on Saturday June 11, 2022 @07:56PM (#31709707)
I’ve seen a lot of strong gym going people try to get handstands and almost all fail.

Please be careful.

Re:How to Do a Handstand by pengaru on Saturday June 11, 2022 @08:56PM (#31710148)
Stabilized against a wall? If "zero" includes someone in reasonable fitness having a normal BMI, just has never been inverted on their arms before, it can be trivial to do with no preparation.
Re:How to Do a Handstand by chrisweekly on Saturday June 11, 2022 @11:00PM (#31710889)
Agreed. I'm baffled by the "impossible" commments.
Re:How to Do a Handstand by mettamage on Saturday June 11, 2022 @07:41PM (#31709589)
I remember with PE in high school that I'd just throw myself up the wall until I succeeded. Took me 3 tries and 4.5 hours in total. I was super bad at it due to very bad flexibility (one of the worst in class). However, I wasn't scared of throwing myself up and I knew how to fall well.

It can be done.

Re:How to Do a Handstand by 2muchcoffeeman on Saturday June 11, 2022 @07:49PM (#31709658)
What ever you were capable of in school as a child has almost no relevance to your adult self unless you have kept up those skills.

Kids also learn physical moves much faster. I only know a couple of adults that have learned how to handstand as adults and even then, they were already fit or had good strength to weight ratios. Still took a long time to get a good looking hold.

I’ve seen kids just pick it up and start walking and hopping with control in weeks.

Re:How to Do a Handstand by mettamage on Saturday June 11, 2022 @08:24PM (#31709913)
> What ever you were capable of in school as a child has almost no relevance to your adult self unless you have kept up those skills.

I can still do a handstand, with difficulty, but I can do it. To be fair, it was always with difficulty, it takes a few tries.

I was 14/15 when I could do it.

> Still took a long time to get a good looking hold.

You need to get it right for 1 second to call it a handstand IMO

Re:How to Do a Handstand by swatcoder on Sunday June 12, 2022 @12:37AM (#31711490)
> You need to get it right for 1 second to call it a handstand IMO

I don’t know your background, but this reads like the mentality that gives a lot of “bro” workout communities a reputation for being irresponsible and injury prone.

Call it a handstand when you can do a handstand, and work your way up to it humbly. Your joints will thank you.

Re:How to Do a Handstand by lemming on Sunday June 12, 2022 @01:16AM (#31711647)
> You need to get it right for 1 second to call it a handstand IMO

I don't think many people would call that a handstand. Or at least, if you do then the definition is so wide as to be useless. There's no balance at all involved for 1 sec, just luck.

Re:How to Do a Handstand by 2muchcoffeeman on Saturday June 11, 2022 @08:43PM (#31710048)
> You need to get it right for 1 second to call it a handstand IMO

Just kick up with the right amount of force and you’ll float for a few seconds. That can be achieved with luck.

Re:How to Do a Handstand by smsm42 on Saturday June 11, 2022 @11:13PM (#31710976)
Or you will fall down, or you hands would collapse and you'd plant you face into the ground. Not everybody has the same physical capabilities.
Re:How to Do a Handstand by mettamage on Saturday June 11, 2022 @09:49PM (#31710479)
Yup, that's why it's possible within less than 30 days.
Re:How to Do a Handstand by 2muchcoffeeman on Saturday June 11, 2022 @11:09PM (#31710948)
It’s not a skill if you can’t do it on command. I’m not sure why we need to lower the bar of success or dilute the skill so that more people can say they succeeded. This wouldn’t even be an argument if we were talking about someone standing on their feet.

It’s ok to not be good at everything.

Re:How to Do a Handstand by paulpauper on Sunday June 12, 2022 @12:37AM (#31711491)
kids have more strength relative to weight, I think
Re:How to Do a Handstand by Retr0id on Saturday June 11, 2022 @08:43PM (#31710049)
Doing a handstand against a wall is very different to doing it without a wall.
Re:How to Do a Handstand by throwaway892238 on Saturday June 11, 2022 @09:30PM (#31710382)
A rock climber can... a little kid can (they have crazy strength-weight ratio)... anyone who can do dips on rings or parallel bars and a couple push-ups/pull-ups can. It's mostly balance, and some arm/shoulder/chest strength. If you have a flexible back it's easier. If you're used to being upside-down it's easier.

It also depends what "form" you're going for, as capoeristas sometimes have a different method than yogis. Some want you to learn only by shooting your legs straight up, some are fine with rolling into it, some start with a wall, some start from a shoulder stand. I personally prefer the "flail my legs around trying to look at the closet mirror and then fall on the pile of dirty clothes" method.

Re:How to Do a Handstand by dymk on Saturday June 11, 2022 @08:50PM (#31710100)
I've taught friends who had no prior calisthenics/gymnastics experience to do a supported handstand in an hour, and they were doing a few seconds of balance within a week. They weren't gym nuts, but they weren't out of shape either. Your average pacific northwest "goes on a hike every once in a while" kind of person.
Re:How to Do a Handstand by malsanton on Saturday June 11, 2022 @08:27PM (#31709945)
This is an unreasonable assessment. I did it in a couple weeks. Maybe not guaranteed, or for everyone. But if you’re fairly athletic is it a fair goal.
Re:How to Do a Handstand by CipherThrowaway on Saturday June 11, 2022 @11:48PM (#31711230)
"Zero" here means no previous handstand practice. >5 seconds of freestanding handstand in 30 days seems pretty realistic for someone in reasonably okay shape.