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Re:Embodiment is indispensable for AGI by olalonde on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @07:55PM (#31661527)
You can't possibly know. Just as you can't possibly know if anyone else experiences a subjective experience or if you're the only one who does. In practice, it is advisable to act as if agents who behave as if they had a subjective experience really do (people, AGIs, animals, etc.).

Related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie

Re:Embodiment is indispensable for AGI by tomcatfish on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @08:22PM (#31661710)
The concept of a philosophical zombie is outright incoherent under most formulations. The argument runs "What if everything was exactly like a universe where everyone had a mind except that no one had a mind?"

The answer is that one of these things is true: * P-zombies would write IDENTICAL papers about how they experience qualia but p-zombie land wouldn't * The mind has some effect on the universe you can detect, so P-zombie universe looks quite different

Re:Embodiment is indispensable for AGI by olalonde on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @08:56PM (#31661957)
The p-zombie thought experiment pre-supposes or rather, defines, consciousness as being non-physical. If it were physical, the two worlds would obviously be distinguishable. My take-away from it is that the p-zombie world is simply our world. The theory that "a non-physical consciousness exists" can't be tested and is therefore a bad theory.